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FASTBOAT TOUGH · #1 July 15th, 2011, 02:06 AM

Don,
For background to this question see Pg.5, first Post, Item C1 this thread.
The USMC have since about the early Fall of 2010 been using their MC-130 refueling planes as "light gunships" (HARVEST HAWK.) with "roll on roll off" weapons and support equipment. Before I put time into this I want to know given the slot limitations of the USMC & USA (The Air Force is doing the same with their light tankers.) do we want to go there knowing that we have the SPOOKY and SPECTRE (Fixed in the last patch.) until the current game runs out in 2020. Also note we will probably see a new SPOOKY before 'games end" using the C-130J Spec ops planes if the budgetary issues can get worked out. I can go either way as this was an item I just ran out of time with last year, my refs are in place. Sorry the pace has been slow though about done with land equipment, just lot's going on everywhere.

Regards,
Pat

Suhiir · #2 July 18th, 2011, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by FASTBOAT TOUGH

Don,
For background to this question see Pg.5, first Post, Item C1 this thread.
The USMC have since about the early Fall of 2010 been using their MC-130 refueling planes as "light gunships" (HARVEST HAWK.) with "roll on roll off" weapons and support equipment. Before I put time into this I want to know given the slot limitations of the USMC & USA (The Air Force is doing the same with their light tankers.) do we want to go there knowing that we have the SPOOKY and SPECTRE (Fixed in the last patch.) until the current game runs out in 2020. Also note we will probably see a new SPOOKY before 'games end" using the C-130J Spec ops planes if the budgetary issues can get worked out. I can go either way as this was an item I just ran out of time with last year, my refs are in place. Sorry the pace has been slow though about done with land equipment, just lot's going on everywhere.

Regards,
Pat

Shussssssh !!!!!!

By mandate/law ONLY the US Air Force is permitted to operate cargo and gunship aircraft.

The USMC is ONLY permitted to operate refueling aircraft.

The fact that on occasion the discountable internal refueling tanks are occasionally left behind and cargo is loaded or that weapons mounts may be part of that cargo are merely coincidence. The USMC KC-130 is solely a refueling aircraft.

The USAF does not allow the USMC to operate any cargo or gunship aircraft.

FASTBOAT TOUGH · #3 July 18th, 2011, 06:53 PM

Got you, but, the question remains is it worth adding to the game given the slot limitations? I do know this that the SPOOKY's just completed a major upgrade that I suspect at a minium will increase the TI/GSR to 50 if not more. And likewise will or should cause a plus in FC as well, remember these are considered precision fire platforms even to danger close inside 100m. That mod will be submitted. So again, to HARVEST HAWK or not, ready to go ethier way. Here's a taste and note the program has been expanded since the first ref. And as you should know this next ref is very through.
http://www.dvidshub.net/news/60315/k...le-afghanistan
http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/...Tankers-05409/

In the meantime, all OSPREY's to get moded with a new weapon ststem under the Helo section of the PP.

Regards,
Pat

Suhiir · #4 July 20th, 2011, 11:43 PM

My vote would be don't add it.

It's a very limited availability very limited use weapons system.

FASTBOAT TOUGH · #5 July 21st, 2011, 01:14 AM

I agree, we're the only country operating truly modern gunships at this time and I've started to feel like the "Soup Nazis" of slot resources, thanks to some, and you know who you are!?! For Italy and a couple of other countries that might follow suit with their
C-27J aircraft (See Jets and Planes...thread Post #42, #4.) that'll be a different story if and when they get there. There will be another issue I will address for both SPECTRE and SPOOKY beyond what I've eluded to already that might cause a bit of a stir. So hopefully I'll get there by the first week of August because I'm submitting what I have at that time regardless as I expect some Q&A right from the very first set of items submitted. Thanks for looking at this item for me as I know the work you've put into the CORPS for the game.

Regards,
Pat

Suhiir · #6 July 21st, 2011, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by FASTBOAT TOUGH

I agree, we're the only country operating truly modern gunships at this time and I've started to feel like the "Soup Nazis" of slot resources, thanks to some, and you know who you are!?! For Italy and a couple of other countries that might follow suit with their
C-27J aircraft (See Jets and Planes...thread Post #42, #4.) that'll be a different story if and when they get there. There will be another issue I will address for both SPECTRE and SPOOKY beyond what I've eluded to already that might cause a bit of a stir. So hopefully I'll get there by the first week of August because I'm submitting what I have at that time regardless as I expect some Q&A right from the very first set of items submitted. Thanks for looking at this item for me as I know the work you've put into the CORPS for the game.

Regards,
Pat

Adding the C-27J makes sense as it adds a currently non-existent capability to the user nations. The USMC OOB already has the AC-130J/U so the HARVEST HAWK doesn't add anything.

Contrary to popular opinion I do believe in the KISS (Keep It Simple, Stupid.) principal.