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 Errr sorry. Didn't see the message. 
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 It's okay. Due to llamaserver's weirdness, it did not host until my turn got in.Not that it helped me much.
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 Poor Berevezan! He could not get to the first place of the Hall of Fame because he was slain by the treacherous magics of Tien'Chi !
 Berevezan, you will be remembered forever in our nation for all the good you did to us !
 
 Glory to the Winged People !
 
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 Thrashing around in what is likely their death throes, the lizards of C'Tis will inflict as much damage as we can to Ermor's legions before we go.
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					Originally Posted by kasnavada  Poor Berevezan! He could not get to the first place of the Hall of Fame because he was slain by the treacherous magics of Tien'Chi ! |  The sad part is that wasn't even the one with +8 penetration... that one you lucked a save against...
 
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					Originally Posted by wonderloss  Thrashing around in what is likely their death throes, the lizards of C'Tis will inflict as much damage as we can to Ermor's legions before we go.
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					Originally Posted by kasnavada  Poor Berevezan! He could not get to the first place of the Hall of Fame because he was slain by the treacherous magics of Tien'Chi ! |  The sad part is that wasn't even the one with +8 penetration... that one you lucked a save against...
  |  My Kings got 17 base MR, with +8 penetration you've barely got a bit more than half chance of getting a kill, assuming I don't have a scout in the province, which reduces your chances by half !    I should have put up some antimagic amulet, which would have reduces your chances to 1/3 or so (and then, only for the guy with +8 penetration).
 
Still worth it, especially since you've got loads of gems to spare. But I'll counter it, like you countered my seeking arrows !
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					Originally Posted by kasnavada  Still worth it, especially since you've got loads of gems to spare. But I'll counter it, like you countered my seeking arrows ! |  Yeah you can mitigate it somewhat, but much harder to completely counter, and, more importantly, much more expensive to counter.
 
By the way as far as scouts go, from my own experiences with being on the receiving end, I think size may be a factor, keep on eye on it and let me know what you think.
 
And your math is wrong, 2 errors as per the rulebook, and, I've been told, one where the rulebook is in error. Probably should have let you keep believing that... but this game is for learning after all.
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 About my maths, I did not do any, it was an estimation. Since you asked, I checked, and found this :http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/showthread.php?t=17160 
Which, coupled with the formula in the manual, tells me that with 17 MR and +8 penetration (and base 10), so you've got +1, so 62% chance. That's more than half. 
With 21 MR and +8 penetration (and base 10), you've got -3 so 30% chance. Around 1/3. I ignore the elements you have not given me though, like skill in astral. Since I do not know about them.
 
The estimations I had were correct assuming the formula also is. That's where I'd be interested in the "real" formula for MR though, if the one of the manual is wrong - I can't find any reference to it on the forum. I must have missed it.
 
About counters... well. You will see. It's going to be WAAAAY cheaper than the one you found for the seeking arrows.
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