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Old October 11th, 2011, 07:59 AM

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Class 28 – Heavy Truck

I don’t know how standardised you want to be here, but IIRC I’ve heard Don mention something about not individualising trucks, so here goes:-

Austria 145 and Sweden 542 are the only 2 armoured Class 28s. They are not the only Class 28s in either oob.
Sweden 553 is the only armed heavy truck.
Bulgaria is the only oob without a heavy truck.
Sweden 555 has Size 3; USMC 60, Yugoslavia 526, Algeria 599, Bosnia 526, Chad 598, Saudi Arabia 256, Lebanon 598, UN 50 & 51 and Nicaragua 300 have Size 5, all others have Size 4. There’s a case for the UN vehicles because they are buses rather than trucks, but I’d be tempted to make them a different class (maybe 252, otherwise unused in UN) and a new formation.
Austria 64, S.Africa 266, Switzerland 601, 602 & 615, Angola 289 & 290, Cambodia 224 and UN 302 all have Crew 3; Yugoslavia 525 has Crew 4. All others have Crew 2.
Greece 701, Yugoslavia 526 and Bosnia 526 are Move Class 3, all others either ‘Default’ or 2.
Australia 257, Canada 184, Austria 64, Switzerland 614 & 616, Angola 289, Cambodia 224 and Malaysia 385 have Survivability 1; UN 50 & 51 have Survivability 2. All others have 0. Comments about the UN units as above.
Lift Capacities vary. 132 is the standard, but I certainly don’t have a problem with variations (That’s why I haven’t mentioned differences in speed). However, Croatia 526 & Switzerland 616 have Lift Capacity of 232 & 244 respectively. You may want to consider knocking them back to 132 & 144?
Weights also vary. Again, not a problem to me, because there’s nothing outstandingly OTT. However, Italy 230, Ethiopia 308 and Somalia 548 have Weight 9, and IIRC there’s a convention about all vehicles being minimum 10.


Class 27 – Medium Truck

Again, how much standardisation? I’ve left the units just called ‘Truck’ or ‘Medium Truck’ alone, but where there is more than 1 unit with a specific name I’ve gone for it. So for example:-

Uruguay 551 & Paraguay 571 are both a ‘Type 73’. The first has Size 3, the second 4.

GaZ-66 – Yugoslavia 523 is Size 4, others Size 3. It is also Weight 12, others 10.

Steyr – Uganda 40 has Speed 15, others 18. It also has Lift Capacity 117, others at least 118.
Greece 700 has Weight 10, others 12.

Bedford – Tanzania 40 has Crew 4, others 2. It also has Speed 15 (others 18) and Lift Capacity 115 (others 118).

Sweden 550 is a 30-cwt – maybe a bit small for this class?

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Old October 11th, 2011, 08:03 AM

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And finally for trucks and transport:

Class 26 – Utility Vehicle

2½ Ton Truck – Afghanistan 309 is Size 3, the standard for a Deuce and a Half is 4.

Bedford – Sudan 310 and Kenya 311 have Speed 15, standard is 18. Both also have Lift Capacity 115, standard is 118.

Bren Carrier – Egypt 226, UK 281, Netherlands 259, Denmark 225, Malaysia 51 & Uruguay 128 have Speed 18, others have 17. I believe 17 is correct.
India 217 and Pakistan 67 have Load Cost 0, others 10.
UK 281 and Denmark 225 have Lift Capacity 104, others 106.

Bernardini AM-IV – Argentina 309 is Move Class 4, others 3. It’s a wheeled vehicle. Brazil 309 has Survivability 2, others 0. It also has Hull Armour 1/1/1, others have 2/2/2.

BT-50 – Argentina 307 has Size 2, others 3.

BTR-40 – Algeria 328 has Crew 3, others 2.
Iraq 329 and Peru 307 have Survivability 3, others 4.
Red 82 and UN 304 have Lift Capacity 106, Algeria 328 has 107, others have 108. 108 is correct.

Civilian Car – Sweden 565 has Speed 14, others 20.

EE-12 – Brazil 308 has Survivability 1, Angola 314 has 0.

GaZ-69 – E.Germany 224 has Crew 3, Viet Cong 182 has Crew 4, all others 2.
Red 79 & Poland 432 have Survivability 1, others 0.
Viet Cong 182 has Lift Capacity 104, others 106.

GaZ-3937 – Russia 241 has Survivability 4, Red 81 has 2, others 0.

HMMWV – Poland 921, China 55 & Tanzania 316 have Crew 3, all others 2.
USMC 71 is the only armoured HMMWV to have Survivability 0, others have 2.
Yugoslavia 522 has FC 1 and Rangefinder 1, others 0.

Iveco LMV – Norway 345 has Lift Capacity 104, others 109.

Jeep – Switzerland 715 has Crew 1, Viet Cong 181 has 4, all others have 2.
Belgium 251 has Speed 26, Argentina 306 has 25, Switzerland 715 has 20, all others 24.
Canada 201 has Survivability 1, others 0.
Viet Cong 181 has Lift Capacity 104, Somalia 312 has 108, all others 106.
USMC 66, Belgium 251 & Spain 189 have Weight 9, all others 10.

Land Rover – Cyprus 281 has Speed 28, all others 24.
Switzerland 46 has Crew 1, others 2.
Australia 254, Kenya 313 and Malaysia 52 have Survivability 1, all others 0.
Somalia 313 has Lift Capacity 108, others 106.

Light Truck – Size varies – up to oob 38 always 2, then mostly 3. Too much hassle to change. However:-
Nigeria 310, Somalia 311 & Uganda 310 have Size 4 – surely too much?
Somalia 311 has Crew 6, others 2.
Nigeria 310 & Somalia 311 have Speed 18, others 20.
Iraq 325, Green 307, Nigeria 310 & Portugal 592 have Lift Capacity 110, N.Korea 222 has 106, Somalia 311 has 108, all others have 112.
N.Korea 222 has Weight 5, Cuba 310, Algeria 326, Nigeria 310, Kenya 310, Somalia 311 & Uganda 310 have 12, all others 10.

Medium Truck – Libya 326, Albania 326 & S.Yemen 311 have Size 4, others 3.
Gulf 311 is Move Class 3, all others 2.

Mercedes-Benz – Norway 338, although m/g-armed, has RoF 0.
Norway 341 & Denmark 240 have Speed 24, other MB 240/290 have 29.

Puch Haflinger – Austria 67 has Crew 2, Switzerland 60 has 1.

Sufa M-240 (Israel 342) is the only Size 1 vehicle.

Type 95 – NVA 238 has Crew 2, Viet Cong 180 has 4.
Indonesia 308 has Lift Capacity 6, others 108. All have Weight 5.

UAZ-469 – E.Germany 712 & Mozambique 11 have Crew 1, others 2. E.Germany 712 also has Speed 26, others 24.
E.Germany 712, Czech 432, Hungary 432, Red 80, Cuba 311, Slovakia 217, Albania 327, Nigeria 312, Eritrea 312, Ukraine 239, Tanzania 312 & Uganda 312 have Survivability 1, others 0.

Unimog – Peru 310 has Lift Capacity 110, others 113.

Xingo BT-25 – Brazil 306 has Speed 26, others 25.

General – Hungary 431 & Green 618/619/620 have Survivability 1, similar others 0. (Not sure why Green has 3 all with the same stats, the only difference is the icon).
Switzerland 865 has Weight 2.

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Old October 11th, 2011, 08:36 AM

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General plea while I think of it:-

Could you please get rid of the commas in the descriptions of M10 Achilles, they play havoc with csv dumps! Units affected are:- Egypt 321, Israel 478, UK 220, Iran 415, Belgium 390 & 391, Denmark 5, Libya 6 & 55 and Kenya 7.

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Old October 11th, 2011, 05:52 PM

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The snipers - mercifully short!

Class 45 – Sniper

China 259, N.Korea 214, Czech 345 & 346 and Cambodia 216 are the only units to have 60 Weapon 1 rounds, all others have 50.

E.Germany 277 has 20 Weapon 2 rounds, all other solo snipers have 2.


Class 143 – Para Sniper

N.Korea 702 is the only unit to have 60 Weapon 1 rounds. 50 is standard, although a couple of heavy sniper teams have 40.

USMC 329 is the only unit to have a third weapon. May well have been a feature of the period.


Class 249 – Ranger Sniper

W.Germany 453 is the only unit that can swim. It appears that their Heavy Snipers in other classes (45, 143) can also swim.


Class 242 – Marine Sniper

Conversely, USMC 269 is the only unit that can not swim. It is also the only Heavy Sniper unit in the class.


Class 164 – Ski Sniper

Finland 136 & 137 are the only units that can swim (Finland has plenty of other ski snipers that cannot).


Class 147 – Commando Sniper

All have FC 10 except for S.Africa 504 & 509, and Indonesia 530 & 531. Indonesia has similar units with FC 10, S.Africa does not. May be a nation issue with S.Africa and a ‘give the customer choice’ thing with Indonesia. The same units are the only ones not to have Rangefinder 10.

The S.Africa units are also the only ones to have 8 Hand Grenades; all other units, whether Crew 1 or 2, have 2. Again, may be a nation thing.

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Old October 14th, 2011, 04:28 AM

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Ships - Part 1

Class 239 – Hovercraft

China 680 has Survivability 255, all others have 6.
Italy 237 has Vision 20, all others have 0. Possible, but when even the USMC doesn’t have it?
USA 186 is unarmed. Its USMC equivalent (also 186) has 2 m/g, as do Japan 290 & S.Korea 187. They do not appear to have different formational uses. USA 186 also has Crew 4, others have 8.


Classes 43, 46, 198 & 199 – LCS, LCG, Torpedo Boat, Patrol Boat.

Not worth going there, too much national variation.


Class 197 – Rivercraft

Generally as 198 & 199, but there are a couple of named craft here, which I presume are built to a formula, to whit the Zodiac and the Rigid Raider. It seems there were 2 basic marks of Rigid Raider, one with a capacity of 8 and the other with capacity of 20.

Rigid Raider – Italy 250 has Size 1, all others 2.
UK 251 & Australia 344 are the only 2 with armour.
Other stats are pretty evenly split, so will leave alone.

Zodiac – all have Swim Speed 6 except Netherlands 274, which has 7.
Argentina 240 has Lift Capacity 110, others have either 13 or 113.


Class 42 – Assault Boat (Always Unit 246)

Netherlands is the only Size 2, others Size 1.
USMC, Ethiopia & Somalia have Radio% 90, others 0.
S.Africa has Load Cost 0, all others 1.

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Ships - Part 2

Class 41 – Landing Barge

Poland 752 has FC 100 (AA Radar), all others 0. This is not for an AA Gun, but for a weapon called ‘60mm OTO HVMS’, which is available here in 1/62. IIRC the main user of this weapon is Chile, which doesn’t have it until 1/84. That a Warpac nation would have it in 1/62 doesn’t stack up.

Poland 700 and Iraq 250 are amphibious – should they be in an Amphibian class?

Of those units (all in slot 247) called ‘Barge’:- Sweden has Crew 4, all others have 5; ARVN is the only armed version.

LCM (8) Mk.1 – Belgium 235 has different stats from all the others.
Israel 369 has Size 12, Netherlands 241 has 8, Greece 250 has 7, all others 9. The same units have Crew 5, all others 7. The same units have Swim Speeds 7-8, all others have 10.
Israel 369 has Lift Capacity 248, Netherlands 241 has 250, Greece 250 has 234, Chile 253 has 240, others have 254.

LCM Mk.6 – France 434 & Iran 184 have Size 12; USMC 191, Turkey 252 & Spain 231 Size 6, all others 9.
Israel 368, France 434, USA 184, USMC 191, Turkey 252 and Spain 231 have Crew 4, others have 7.
USMC 191 has Swim Speed 6, all others have 8.
USA 184 has Lift Capacity 175, others have 180 or 240.
France 434 has steel armour 5/3/3/6/4/4/0, HEAT armour 6/4/4/7/5/5/0, all others have 4/4/4/4/4/4/0, 6/6/6/6/6/6/0.

LCVP – remarkably consistent, which leads me to believe that anomalies need pointing up.
USA 254 has Size 12, all others 8.
USA 254 has Crew 4, Netherlands 240 & W.Germany 355 have 5, all others 7.
USA 254 has Lift Capacity 136, Netherlands 240 has 254, W.Germany 355 has 250, all others 236.

LST – similar to LCVP.
Russia 204 has Size 14, Ethiopia 251 has 12, UN 240 has 11, all others 10.
Ethiopia 251 has Crew 8, all others 12. It also has Swim Speed 10, all others 8; Steel HF 6 (all others 4) and HEAT Top 4 (most others 3).
UN 240 has HEAT Top 4, Peru 255 has 5 see above).

T-4 – Syria 250 has Size 12, all others 10. It also has armour 2/2/2/2/2/2/0, no HEAT (others have 4/4/4/4/4/4/3, 6/6/6/6/6/6/5.
Poland 184 & Syria 250 have Crew 4, others 8. They also have RoF 6, all others 9 (same Weapon 1).
Libya 250 has Swim Speed 8, all others 6.
Romania 184 & Bulgaria 184 have Lift Capacity 250, all others 230.
Poland 184 has HEAT Top 3, others 5.

I’m not going for any of the other named classes because there is so much variation in them, and I don’t have my reference works to hand.

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Scouts and Observers (mostly to do with grenade loadouts not matching the squad size)

Class 243 – Marine Forward Observer

USMC 221 have 12 hand grenades as weapon 2. After 1/60, they revert to 4 (2 each).


Class 241 – Marine Scouts

S.Korea 370/371/372 are the only ones who cannot swim. They are also the only units who have 80 weapon 1 rounds (others have 60, even with more crew).

S.Korea 370 & 371 have 5 Weapon 3 rounds (Crew is 4).

Poland 280/281/282/283 are some of the very few Scouts, particularly in specialist units such as Marines, who have Speed 6 – most have 7.


Class 234 – Guerilla Scout

Somalia 441 have 6 weapon 2 rounds, with 4 crew (others have 2 each).


Class 229 – Para Observer

W.Germany 378 & 379 are Size 1, even though Crew 2.

France 630/631/632/633 have 9 (Weapon 2) Hand Grenades, between 2 Crew.


Class 228 – COIN Scouts

Rhodesia 220 is the only unit with Speed 6, all others have 7.

Nicaragua 395 is the only unit that can swim. Other Nicaragua COIN Scouts cannot.


Class 168 – Ski Scouts

Norway 308/309/310/311 and Sweden 140/141/142/143 are the only units with Speed 6, others have 7.

Sweden 143 has 8 (Weapon 3) hand grenades, with 5 Crew (others have 10).


Class 101 – Paratroop Scouts

ARVN 502, Belgium 563 & 564 have Speed 6. All others (apart from 8-man units) have 7.

E.Germany 345 & 346 have 90 Weapon 1 rounds, Belgium 563 & 564 have 80, Romania 376 has 70 (Standard loadout for 3-4 man units is 60).

N.Korea 450 & 451 have 60 Weapon 2 rounds (standard loadout for a sniper rifle is 50).

Poland 390/391/392/393/394 have 4 Weapon 2 rounds (Hand Grenades for a 3-man team).

Belgium 564 has 18 Weapon 2 HE rounds (standard loadout is 14).

USA 100 has 7/1 Weapon 2 rounds (standard loadout is 14/2 for a 4-man unit).

Sweden 157 has 80 Weapon 3 rounds (standard loadout is 50).

Poland 393 & 394, and Romania 376 have 4 Weapon 3 (Hand Grenade) rounds in 3-man teams.

E.Germany 345 has 6 Weapon 3 (Hand Grenade) rounds in a 4-man team.

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