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Old October 20th, 2011, 01:07 PM

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Class 180 – Artillery Prime Mover

BTR-50PK - Egypt 581 has Lift Capacity 116, others have 118.
In fact, all carried 20 soldiers - the same for BTR-50 as APC.

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Komsolets - Poland 542, Russia 552, Czech 542, Hungary 542 – small point, but could the name be changed to ‘Komsomolets’ please? Czech 542 has Lift Capacity 116, others have 115.
This unit needs reworking. Komsomolets was a small pre-WW2 armoured tractor with capacity of 106 (max 107, including a commander) - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Komsomo...rmored_tractor . Few survived the war and were very unlikely exported. An exception was Finnish army, which carefully maintained their captured Komsomolets' until 1961 (BTW, Finland hasn't one in the game and it's worth to add one; but size should be 3).

In all other countries including Russia they should be replaced with something else, for example Ya-12 tractor (in Poland, Hungary, Czechoslovakia spelled Ja-12) - http://forum.valka.cz/viewtopic.php/t/17698, especially, that data don't fit to Komsomolets. We even have a picture of Ya-12 - 29395. Data could be similar, but speed was up to 38 km/h (12-13)
Hungary and Czechoslovakia used also several types of ex-German SdKfz tractors.

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Poland 63, Iraq 541, E.Germany 591, Cuba 551, Angola 551, Sudan 546, N.Yemen 546 and Tanzania 551 have Crew 4, others have 2. I believe 2 is correct.

Russia 551, Iraq 541, Cuba 551, Angola 551, Sudan 546, N.Yemen 546, Ukraine 551 and Tanzania 551 have no Swim Speed, others have 2.
Right, it should have crew of 2 and be able to swim 6 km/h. On the other hand, it carried only 11 soldiers (in Russian OOB it has 112, I don't know how with others).

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Old October 20th, 2011, 09:27 PM
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Class 180 – Artillery Prime Mover

BTR-50PK - Egypt 581 has Lift Capacity 116, others have 118.
In fact, all carried 20 soldiers - the same for BTR-50 as APC.Michal

I have noted this down but given the volume of reports it will be well after Christmas before I get to this but for now please note the UNIT CLASS of the unit involved and consider what that UNIT CLASS main purpose is and that applying carry capacity to units that can be used as personal carriers AND gun towing vehicles requires that the carry capacity's be occasionally different. That is a game reality and when it conflicts with actual reality game reality takes precident.

Also note the carry capacity for this vehicle in the Russian OOB and that will likely be what the carry capacity of any other unit of this type is changed to. Also note that for Egypt the Russian carry capacity is what the APC version is already set to ( and what I find when I check sources ) and changing it to the same for the Artillery Prime Mover class may render it useless in that role........ right now IDK if that is the case or not but I will when I get to it but what I do know at this time I have no intention of tearing apart the carry capacity's and carry costs for artillery to make it work with APC's when for 99.9% of players the existing, albeit somewhat flawed system, works just fine and it is unimportant that there may exist slightly different capacitys from one unitclass or one OOB to another

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If I understand your concerns correctly, there's no problem in this case, because all BTR-50s should have increased capacity, to 120, not lowered (source: Russian books Bronekollektsya 4/2000 on the Soviet armour and Bronekollektsya special issue 1(5)/2004 on PT-76 family).

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