MP: Pointy Sticks MA started

[Mightypeon]

Also, I want to hold a vote over a rollback to find a possible sub for Vanheim.
If a rollback is done, Vanheim is back from being AI, and we can look for a sub. However, a Rollback can create some bugs, and I do not have a lot of experience with it.
I do beleive however that having Van go AI will be quite unbalancing.

I thus vote for rollback.

[shatner]

I'm not aware of any roll-back bugs, specifically, but they are generally considered bad news and to be avoided when possible because of how they warp the game. Say player 1 sends a force to go conquer some indies and on the following turn his force collides with another player's force and gets annihilated in the process. Should the turn be rolled back, it would take a lot of discipline for that player to behave as though he didn't know what was going to happen. This goes doubly with diplomacy related reveals (e.g. "on turn X, my neighbor declares war and now the turn as been rolled back... I better beef up my defenses").

All that said, I'm not happy about having Vanheim going AI and will submit to a rollback if everyone else is willing to handle it maturely. I keep a turns folder for each MP game so, in the event of a rollback, I am going to just re-submit my turn 8 .h file so nothing will be any different.

[PriestyMan]

Originally Posted by shatner

I'm not aware of any roll-back bugs, specifically.

There are like a million possible bugs with rollbacks. units dissapearing, gems disappearing, more units appearing, units getting new slots even, or polymorphing. literally all the weirdest stories regarding in game stuff comes from rollbacks. but this all happens generally when players fail to do it properly mainly through forgetting to delete their old .trn and .2h files before rolling back.

[tratorix]

So i assume I shouldn't send my turn in until we get this sorted out? I'm going to abstain on this, as while I don't like the idea of someone being AI this early on, I also don't like the idea of a rollback.