Does Temple Boost Holy for Call God?

[TigerBlood]

Pretty sure it will take 8 turns with 5 h1 priests. I don't think there is a modifier for having a temple. The call god action requires 40 holy levels, not 50.

Temples are only important for recruiting sacred units and calculating Dominion spread (as well as modifying preaching in a friendly province).

[shatner]

Thanks for the response. That said, according to the Lies My Rulebook Told Me thread:

Originally Posted by Micah

Lies My Rulebook Told Me, or The Unofficial Rulebook Errata Thread

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Call god is a 50 priest-turn process, not 40. p52

Regardless of whether a temple boosts Call God or not, the target number of priest-turns is 50.

[JonBrave]

Originally Posted by TigerBlood

Temples are only important for ... (as well as modifying preaching in a friendly province).

Only in a friendly province?
So if I conquer a province with unfriendly dominion, stick up a temple next turn and start preaching, do I not get some kind of bonus for the preaching?

[shatner]

Originally Posted by JonBrave

Only in a friendly province?
So if I conquer a province with unfriendly dominion, stick up a temple next turn and start preaching, do I not get some kind of bonus for the preaching?

The boost applies in friendly, hostile and neutral dominion. While I don't have the manual in front of me at the moment, the odds of a priest successfully raising dominion are (Holy Level) * 30 - (5 * enemy dominion)... though I could be misremembering the 5 and it's actually a 10. Assuming I remember correctly, that means an H1 priest praying in neutral or friendly dominion has a 30% chance of raising the dominion in that province by 1. If that province had a temple then the priest would be considered an H2 giving them a 60% chance of success. Therefore, an H2 with a temple praying in -4 dominion (that is, the province has 4 black candles) has a 3*30% - 4*5% = 70% chance of raising the dominion in that province by 1 (which means reducing the enemy dominion in that province down to 3). Priests with the inquisition ability get to double their holy level when attempting to pray away hostile dominion (so Marignon's High Inquisitor counts as a whopping H6 when reducing enemy dom).

Also, a priest can only raise the dominion up to their 2x(holy level), meaning that H1 can't raise the dom above 2, unless there's a temple, in which case they can raise it up to 4.

Originally Posted by JonBrave

I (think I) got it up till there, then I lose you Why is the priest as effective as a dom-9 temple?

To clarify, when I say a dom-9 temple, I mean a temple operating when your nation's dominion is 9 (so when you created your pretender and set your scales, you set your dom score to be 9 in this example).

Your odds of a temple generating a candle are 10*dom. If you have a dom of 1 then each temple has a 10% chance of generating a candle each turn, while a dom of 10 has a 100% chance of generating a candle each turn.

An H2 priest with a temple has a 90% chance of raising the dominion in that province making their dom-generation just as effective as a dom-9 temple (which also has a 90% chance of generating a candle).

Of course, a priest can only generate candles in the province they are praying in, whereas the candles from temples, prophets and pretenders can (and often do) "flow" into adjacent provinces.