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Old February 6th, 2012, 08:18 AM

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Default Re: SP and SPAA Developments

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I don't see much more here however I will further look into the Norwegian NASAM mobile launcher issue, which as stated below, I believe will use the same platform as the Finns. Again from PP#1 2011/2012.

A2. ADD/FINLAND/NASAMS II FIN/JAN 2015/C 4/6 Multiple Launcher AIM 120 AMRAAM/USE UNIT 551 TRUCK/Modify UNIT 559 accordly./ The truck used in UNIT 551 looks like the SISU 8x8 that will be the primary carrier for the system. This system will be more advanced then shown by UNIT 559 which was probably based on NASAMS as used by the Norwegians for the past ten years. I also believe the Norwegian system is mobile as well but might not get to it this first time around and I think they also use the same truck as well. Most Refs below were pulled from the "Transport for U.S. Patriot..." thread Pgs. 3 & 4. As you can see I built on to this one, didn't expect to see it, and missed it at first.
http://www.defpro.com/news/details/23345/
http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/...Systems-05398/
http://www.defensenews.com/story.php?i=4313048
http://www.raytheon.com/newsroom/fea...aam/index.html
http://www.armyrecognition.com/april...y_0804113.html
http://www.sisudefence.fi/node/29
http://www.sisudefence.fi/product/8x8
Finnish military official site has been updated recently and lists also some generic information about the NASAMS system:
Minister of Defence decided in 2009 that BUK M1 (local designation ITO96) will be replaced with Norwegian NASAMS II system. The material will be received in 2011 and first conscripts will be trained in 2012.

Fire distribution center: Kongsberg Defence & Aerospace AS.
Radar: Raytheon AN/MPQ-64F1 "Sentinel"
Electro-optical sensor: RheinÂ*metall Defence Electronics MSP 600, TI, CCTV and laser range finder
Carrier: Sisu 8x8
Missile: AIM-120 AMRAAM

Main reason for the switch is the poor performance of BUK M1 against ECM systems.

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Fallout Re: SP and SPAA Developments

This will be a busy year in this area not all will be expected to make it I'm sure as by arrangement, I'm trying to stay within a two to three year window to avoid the house keeping that's occurred in the OOBs over the last couple of years in a more aggressive manner. I have to keep the housekeeping going at my end as the data complied is interfering with my work in the Helo and Jets area that I was both unable to get too but would've complicated matters during the 2011/2012 campaign as well. The Helos & Jets will go in separately as presented Patch Posts as these are both being worked now for the 2012/2013 Campaign after this thread is addressed the APC one will be the last one caught up to date of saved materials. Some refs starting with the below will be reused to support others by their nature of reporting. The game face is almost on...again.

1) Algeria you've seen this ref in the MBT Thread the focus here is on the S-300 PMU2 which is the improved export version. System and transport info provided as well.
http://www.armyrecognition.com/febru...a_1802122.html
http://www.armyrecognition.com/s-300..._sheet_uk.html
http://www.armyrecognition.com/s-300...efense_uk.html
http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/...everage-02024/
TRACK/ADD.


2) MEADS update successful "over the shoulder" launch. What's the big deal well you'll have to research that yourselves but in the short term that's a significant milestone and not every system is capable of that. Also ref on Command & Control vehicle. No more updates on Poland's interest to get involved with the program as a partner. The U.S., Germany and Italy are committed through the operational testing phase to avoid MAJOR financial penalties.
http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/...639/#contracts
http://www.defpro.com/news/details/32689/
TRACK/OOB MODIFY AS NEEDED.


3) Brazil to field improved ASTROS II.
http://www.defpro.com/news/details/27262/
TRACK/ADD.


4) Norway to update NASAMS probably to the NASAMS II System look to Finland's unit as submitted in the 2011/2012 Campaign.
http://www.defpro.com/news/details/30255/
TRACK/ADD.


5) USA PIM is to ready with first units to be delivered to the Army in late 2013. Have seen nothing to indicate there was a problem in the final test evaluations conducted last fall. Believe OOB date has these available next year. This is a much improved version of the PALADIN, using many of the upgrades from the cancelled NLOS-C Program.
http://www.defpro.com/news/details/27392/
http://www.defpro.com/news/details/19209/
http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/...M109A6-Paladin
TRACK/VERIFY/POSSIBLE OOB MODIFICATION.


6) S. Korea taking a lesson from the Chinese in the area of truck mounting their artillery, in this case a truck mounted advanced
105mm. Apparently they had these in production since 2010. I'm thinking JUN 2011 or JAN 2012. Will need more refs here.
http://www.defpro.com/news/details/28569/
ADD.


7) USA AN/TQP 53 CB Range Finder this is for you CB guys (Like me.) Also EQ-36 addressed in second ref.
http://www.defpro.com/news/details/32959/
http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/...rs-ASAP-05006/
MODIFY CB?/PROBALY GOOD AS IS?/FYI


8) Russia S-500 delayed with testing to continue later this year. Fielding in 2017. I can't remember but I thought I saw these
in the OOB, if so the date will need to be changed. We ran into this with a mod I submitted 2 years ago with the S-400 now fixed I believe.
http://www.armyrecognition.com/febru...7_0802121.html
VERIFY OOB/TRACK/FYI.


9) Chinese to build new SH-1 for Pakistan, this is a truck mounted SP 155mm, they recieved them in 2009 but I don't believe these to be in the OOB.
http://www.armyrecognition.com/china..._pictures.html
VERIFY OOB/ADD/FYI.


10) Why? Two reasons 1. I thought somebody(s) were doing work in this area. 2) Outside of this ref, I'm seeing interest by other countries to import this system.
http://www.armyrecognition.com/georg...pictures_.html
FYI/TRACK.

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11) N. Korean M-1991. With N. Korea when you get worthwhile weapons info you post it, some of us get major headaches dealing with all their "what ifs" when it comes to weapons.
http://www.armyrecognition.com/north...res_video.html
FYI.


12) IDF looking for MRLS.
http://www.dmilt.com/index.php?optio...asia&Itemid=56
TRACK/FYI.


13) Japan and UK to work on a new joint venture 155mm type.
http://www.armyrecognition.com/march...y_0503124.html
http://www.dmilt.com/index.php?optio...asia&Itemid=56
TRACK/FYI.


14) Peru AGAIN if you've been following the other new thread posts of the last week. I'll combine these system refs to save time.
http://www.dmilt.com/index.php?optio...rica&Itemid=58
http://www.dmilt.com/index.php?optio...rica&Itemid=58
http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/...efenses-07339/
TRACK/ADD.


15) Philipines looking to update SAM units.
http://www.dmilt.com/index.php?optio...asia&Itemid=56
TRACK/ADD.


16) Poland to improve S-125 SC NEWA Systems.
http://www.dmilt.com/index.php?optio...rope&Itemid=57
http://www.armyrecognition.com/march...a_0703122.html
TRACK/FYI


17) Taiwan to have their PATRIOTs upgraded from PAC-2 to the PAC-3 this is a major upgrade in overall performance.
http://www.armyrecognition.com/decem...y_1912115.html
TRACK/ADD.


18) S. Korea to field in 2013 the CHEONGUNG M-SAM.
http://www.armyrecognition.com/decem...m_2212111.html
ADD.

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19) Taiwan has unveiled the fact that the RT-2000 MRLS is in serial production, at the time of this ref there was alot of concerns over Chinas intentions in the waters in there area. This weapon would qualify as an on map system as stated in the article as a part of it's mission capability.
http://www.dmilt.com/index.php?optio...asia&Itemid=56
ADD.

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20) USA uses the M11330E1 105mm Arty round.
http://www.armyrecognition.com/novem...e_1611113.html
ADD.


All pictures shown are from the refs presented with the topic.

Well there you have it. Wouldn't want you to think I was just sitting on my "donkey' all this time. Hope you all have a great start to the week, it's off to the zoo with the "GD" and CINCLANTHOME later today. Lifes rough sometimes!

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Pat
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Fallout Re: SP and SPAA Developments

It's a good night for some house cleaning.

1. A belated Happy 25th to the SAF G6 still one of the most advanced SP systems out there and a long time leader in the "range game".
http://www.army-guide.com/eng/article/article_2406.html
FYI.


2. BAE wins a contract modifications for the M109A6 PIM and I'll need to check for a fielding date modification.
http://www.army-technology.com/news/...pim-programme/
VERIFY DATES.


3. Want to develop your own artillery? Well do what the Kalyani Group in India has done by buying the gun, then buying the factory that made it and finally move the factory brick by brick from Austria to India.
http://ajaishukla.blogspot.com/2012/...illery-to.html
FYI.


4. USA buying the latest CB Fire Radar systems. I think this more as an FYI issue vs a game issue. Though I've been involved in many arty issues I feel in this area no further changes need to be asked for or made within the game concerning this issue. This is more about understanding how things work.
http://www.defpro.com/news/details/34966/
FYI.


5. Chile to upgrade it's M109A5 with work being done in the U.S. Read para three for the upgrades due to be completed in 10/2013.
http://www.defpro.com/news/details/28431/
MODIFY UNITS.


6. A think tanks thoughts on MEADS and the USA.
http://www.defpro.com/news/details/34675/
FYI.


7. S. K orean company partners up w/L&T of India in a joint tender to produce Indias SP 155mm. Note the picture.
http://www.dmilt.com/index.php?optio...asia&Itemid=56
http://www.armyrecognition.com/april...a_0304121.html
TRACK.


8. It's nice to have money in a story related to the above.
http://www.dmilt.com/index.php?optio...asia&Itemid=56
FYI.


9. Italy wants the U.S. to maintain it's commitment to MEADS.
http://www.defensenews.com/article/2...text|FRONTPAGE
FYI.


10. Morocco fields the M109A5 from the U.S.
http://www.dmilt.com/index.php?optio...rica&Itemid=55
ADD.


11. The new PATRIOT GEM-T missile has successfuly intercepted a target in a high density enviroment.
http://www.armyrecognition.com/march...ight_test.html
TRACK.


12. Russia sucessfully tests a new thermobaric rocket for the TOS-1 which entered service in late 2000. Don't know if there's a date issue or not for the game concerning TOS-1.
http://www.armyrecognition.com/april...t_1104122.html
VERIFY DATE AND FYI.


13. Russia pulls SMERCH from Indonesias MRLS tender.
http://en.rian.ru/mlitary_news/20120502/173165458.html
FYI.


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Pat
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