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				February 25th, 2012, 08:33 PM
			
			
			
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				 Re: Llamaserver troubles 
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				February 26th, 2012, 01:06 PM
			
			
			
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				 Re: Llamaserver troubles 
 Server is still stuck    
Llama is doing a great service and I don't have enough words to thank him. 
However recently the server's spells of no service are becoming increasingly annoying. Enough so that I'm seriously considering manually hosting the next game I admin. 
I wish shrapnel would pay llama and give him all the equipment and infrastructure he needs so we have a more robust server.
 
Llama, don't take it the wrong way. I know you have a life and many important things to do besides baby sitting the server voluntarily. So again thank you so much!!! |  
	
		
	
	
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				February 26th, 2012, 02:06 PM
			
			
			
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				February 26th, 2012, 03:35 PM
			
			
			
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 +1, it really is a great service that he's providing. 
 Just a quick question for Llama, how averse are you to sharing the code you've used for the Llamaserver?
 
 There's got to be someone out there that might be able to dedicate more time to keeping a server up, or someone willing to spend the time migrating the entire thing to a more robust solution.
 
 More robust solution seems like the best option. Given the heavy use of the Llama server, doesn't seem out of the realm of possibility for the entire Dom3 community could come up with the couple hundred bucks to get a dedicated amazon web services server instance.
 
 Not sure what sort of computing power the Llamaserver currently has, but I'm guessing it's just an old CPU in Llamas basement. We could easily get the same performance in something that wouldn't shut off every other week for about $350.
 
 I'm definitely do not have either the savy to pull this off or the time to teach myself how, but I'd certainly be willing to contribute some money towards the cause.
 
			
			
			
			
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				February 26th, 2012, 05:53 PM
			
			
			
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 Agreed with everyone who has previously thanked Llama.  Voluntarily hosting the server that has allowed us all to play Dominions together for years is an effort that goes beyond mere thanks, and I can't express enough gratitude for his efforts.
 I'm with Torgon in that I don't have any technical savvy that would be required to host a more robust Dominions infrastructure, but I would be willing to contribute financially to such an effort.
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 There's a pay-pal option on Llama Server... 
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				 Re: Llamaserver troubles 
 Sorry about the downtime guys.
 The problem this time was that the fuse flipped when my housemate turned the toaster on, so it turned the server off, and I didn't notice that it had gone off for more than 24 hours till Bullock PMed me. You see it emails me when it has problems, but it can't email me when it's off. So it's always appreciated when people let me know if there are problems.
 
 I will think about how I can improve robustness. I really appreciate the offers of financial help, however that's not really the problem. Every time it goes down it is for some random reason (like this one). I guess maybe a hosted solution would be good, so that it wouldn't suffer from internet/power outages. But I think perhaps it might be quite expensive? I don't really know how such things work - anyone have any experience? All I'd really need is ssh access to a linux box.
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				February 26th, 2012, 07:38 PM
			
			
			
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					Originally Posted by llamabeast  Sorry about the downtime guys.
 The problem this time was that the fuse flipped when my housemate turned the toaster on, so it turned the server off, and I didn't notice that it had gone off for more than 24 hours till Bullock PMed me. You see it emails me when it has problems, but it can't email me when it's off. So it's always appreciated when people let me know if there are problems.
 
 I will think about how I can improve robustness. I really appreciate the offers of financial help, however that's not really the problem. Every time it goes down it is for some random reason (like this one). I guess maybe a hosted solution would be good, so that it wouldn't suffer from internet/power outages. But I think perhaps it might be quite expensive? I don't really know how such things work - anyone have any experience? All I'd really need is ssh access to a linux box.
 |  The hosted solution actually isn't that expensive. The $350 I was quoting was the actual rate for a small (default size) medium utilization instance from AWS for three years, so around $115 a year. Like I said, I'm not sure what kind of hardware the Llamaserver's currently running on, but here are the specs for the virtual machine on Amazon's servers:
 
Small Instance (Default) 1.7 GB of memory, 1 EC2 Compute Unit (1 virtual core with 1 EC2 Compute Unit), 160 GB of local instance storage, 32-bit platform
 
Works out to about $115 a year. + Run time fees of $.03 per hour. Set it up to run a few hours a day (3) to process turns for an even $150 a year. Obviously, it would be a lot for one person to pony up. But given the number of people who use it, I'm sure we could drum up some interest. Heck, I'd throw in $50 right now if we got enough to set it up from other people.
			
			
			
			
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				February 26th, 2012, 08:11 PM
			
			
			
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 I'd be willing to contribute $50 as well.
 I also have quite a bit of experience managing barely supportable applications in an IT environment, so if you need help setting any of this stuff up or managing it, I'd be willing to help.
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 i can scrape up a $20 spot.  llama, i don't know you, but thanks for all of your efforts.  i think it's funny that when the server goes down everyone(including me) frets, but it was because of a TOASTER!!  i mean, my efforts and struggles to bring Ulm to supremecy thwarted by...Toast!!
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