The Joys of Overzealous Moderators - Page 3

Admiral_Aorta · #1 July 3rd, 2012, 06:06 AM

I think it says something about shrapnel that they're more interested in banning people who are irreverent as opposed to people who actively spread misinformation about the game.

WraithLord · #2 July 3rd, 2012, 07:34 AM

This is not right.

Yes, it's your business alright but if you start throwing customers out like this w/ no explanation and no visible justification it doesn't look good.
In-fact it makes me not want to step into your business anymore.

parone : "i have always found callahan to be honest, insightful and helpful." - Yes, yes and yes. He can be brutally blunt but bottom line he's one of the most helpful players, as in generous w/ his free time and advice and help.

I am posting here for many years but now I'm seriously considering to move completely to http://z7.invisionfree.com/Dom3mods once the games I admin. are through.

BTW - FWIW the only ppl you're hurting are the dom fan community.

Soyweiser · #3 July 3rd, 2012, 08:13 AM

I doubt the mods are reading this people.

Also, it could have just been a mistake. Somebody reporting him, and a mod throwing the banhammer at him.

It is annoying that we just don't know what happend and where the line is we shouldn't cross. Sure Calahan could be annoying at times. An wordy... But he also tried to help people out a lot.

I hope he just got a warning before he was banned.

Admiral_Aorta · #4 July 3rd, 2012, 08:41 AM

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BANS AND WARNINGS

Banning will be done via a point system listed below, but may be tailored on a case by case basis.
Warning by moderator/administrator may be given in some circumstances, but most infractions will result in infraction points. Your level of infraction points will determine how close you are to a ban.
Your first ban will be a 'time-out' ban that will consist of 24 hours. This typically is used as a 'cooling-off' period.
The next temporary ban will last one week.
Following the previous two bans, if a user continues to violate policy, they will be permanently banned.
Following private discussion, some permanently banned users will be allotted the right to return to the community under a different username in the future. However this is very restrictive and in the event that they continue to misbehave, their account will be permanently banned with no prior warnings or temp bans. While we reserve the right to allow certain users re-admittance, do not expect to be given a second chance if you have been permanently banned.
A permanent ban can be applied for any reason and at any time if the Admins determine it is warranted to promote the harmony of the community.
Bans and warnings are not to be discussed on the forums. Any inquiries or comments on bans are to be sent in private messages or via email. A moderator/administrator may choose to publicly inform the participants of a forum about bans and warnings if this is in the interest of the forum.
We hate to have to ban members and rarely do so-don't give us a reason to have to!

cool ignoring of your own rules dudes

Admiral_Aorta · #5 July 3rd, 2012, 08:55 AM

people aren't really arguing that it's a 'legal' problem but a moral one. Those are the rules yes,but they should not be. Also plenty of people on here are rude but only certain ones seem to get banned.

momfreeek · #6 July 3rd, 2012, 09:05 AM

Well, I don't want to acuse you of "spreading disinformation" and I'll not hurl insults at you for it but you just changed your tune drastically. Its hard to know what in this thread is realistic complaint.

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Originally Posted by Admiral_Aorta

people aren't really arguing that it's a 'legal' problem but a moral one. Those are the rules yes,but they should not be.

You think people should be allowed to bash others at will?

Ofc, I understand there is a demand for this kind of community but surely you understand there are those who prefer a more civil discussion (not sure what words to use.. you know what I mean). It seems there is room for 2 forums.

Gandalf Parker · #7 July 3rd, 2012, 09:41 AM

There definitely is room within the Dom3 community for both.
There is a standard, corporate-owned, Q/A forum, support for all aspects of the game, where the mood of the forum is prime.
And then there is a fan-owned, fan supported, fan moderated forum where the quality of the answers is prime over considerations of mood.

It does no good to try and shut down or alter either one since both seem happy with their forums, and have people who feel comfortable there. As long as both are willing to allow mention of the other then I would (irritatingly diplomaticly appropriate because it is on this forum) tend to say that the community in general is happy.

Fantomen · #8 July 3rd, 2012, 09:57 AM

Nice theory, but if it was true that this fora is oh, so nice and cosy, then why is all the drama, fighting and inflammatory discussion HERE and not at dom3mods?

Seems to indicate repression as cause rather than solution.

momfreeek · #9 July 3rd, 2012, 10:38 AM

Its not "repression" if you are free to leave at any time (just to diffuse hyperboly).

Seems to me that there is much inflammatory stuff on dom3mods directed at individuals on this forum. That this doesn't result in infighting is surely BECAUSE it is written there and not here.

Soyweiser · #10 July 3rd, 2012, 10:55 AM

Wow... wait a minute. We do have drama at dom3mods. It was my fault

. I was pointing out some hypocrisy of a new member of dom3mods and shrapnel. People asked me to do it at dom3mods. So we did.

And the dom3clone thread is also a bit drama like.

@momfreeek
"you are free to leave at any time" you forgot to add, but "leave your stuff behind". This is still the main forum for dom3 newbies. I doubt they would like it if there was a sticky pointing to better places to get your questions answered. (Which is usually Calahans issue, people not explaining the game mechanics in detail enough, usually he did this without any regard for diplomacy).