Question: mounted guns destroyed by artillery

[Mobhack]

An APC is an armoured vehicle so it protects its passengers. A prime mover is a soft vehicle class, just like a truck, so it does not. Even if the OOB designer added armour to it, the passengers are riders like on a tank.

If I have arty to move around the place then I usually look for a half-track or similar APC with enough carrying capacity to use. Especially if trucking mortars or ATG which do not react well to being in a soft vehicle hit by fire.

Also - in the next release the forced dismount (with attendant risk of casualties) for passengers of soft vehicles or tank riders will only be 70%, not 100%.

Andy

[Mario_Fr]

Is it possible to change the arty prime movers to APC-status? Actually they are supposed to tow guns, not to transport infantry.
I mean, I don`t mind losing my ATG`s when they are really hit, but right now this unit class is not really suited for transporting arty. Every time some shell comes near, the gun gets destroyed automatically.

Mario

[Mobhack]

Originally Posted by Mario_Fr

Is it possible to change the arty prime movers to APC-status? Actually they are supposed to tow guns, not to transport infantry.
I mean, I don`t mind losing my ATG`s when they are really hit, but right now this unit class is not really suited for transporting arty. Every time some shell comes near, the gun gets destroyed automatically.

Mario

There is no such thing in SP as a "towing only" unit. All have a carry capacity, and that is nasty and complex, and not very good for such differentiations. SP does not tow - everything is carried internally.

Make an artillery tractor have a large carry capacity so it can "tow" the biggest, heaviest available field piece and you probably have given it a humongous infantry carrying capacity. (Same problem can occur with tank transporters - but these are deliberately very slow to stop that sort of abuse).

Looking at most OOBS, the artillery tractor is rather useless. Some have armoured ones - it only protects the vehicle. Some may be 4WD. But there are usually medium or heavy trucks with the requisite carry, if you only need 2WD. Some of these trucks especially in MBT have 4WD in any case. Or even the ubiquitous 3/4 to 1 ton or so 4WD truck, which can carry most useful field pieces - and is significantly faster than medium or heavy trucks.

I only ever have light 15cwt or similar trucks in any core force to shift Flak and ATG around, and as and when a half-track comes available with a decent lift capacity I upgrade to that. I'd rather have an open-topped tin-plate APC than any form of soft skin truck.

But the "artillery tractor" - is probably just there for scenario flavour I suppose. A designer can have an on-map battery of 25 pounders with the proper Morris Quads lined up behind them.

cheers
Andy