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Old August 12th, 2013, 07:34 PM

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Default Re: British OOB7 corrections/suggestions (v.6)

Let's continue:

387 C9/B 40mm SPAA - is it armoured purposely? In fact it had only gun's shield.

388 Humber AA Mk.I - size should be 3(2), like 377 Guy AA

391 1.5pdr Empl - it uses generic SP-1 picture, as 40mm Bofors.

403 17-pdr MK2 ATG - units 63, 146 use a name written: "17 Pdr", and better is "Mk.2" instead of MK2

406 Priest Kangaroo - it carried .50 or .30 AAMG on a ring (several photos with AAMG are here http://www.network54.com/Forum/47208...garoo+interior)
I haven't found information confirming, that it had BMG (original Priest had not), and it's not seen on photos.

490 Honey Recce - better photo is 27739 (seems, that turretless M3/M3A1 were used only in Africa in a small number, while later turretless M3A3 with sloped hull became common and officially approved vehicles)

595 Col 3in Stokes - drawing is a generic mortar (with Soviet 82mm baseplate) - others use 21150 for 3in mortar

601, 604 Morris CS9 - it had an open turret in fact. Maybe it should have more SD? (it had a smoke mortar).
It's known in publications as Morris CS9/LAC (eg. AFV Weapons Profile 21)

603 Rolls Royce - I believe, that it should not be "colonial AC" class - the cars converted with Boys were used in Egypt, on main theatre, by the 11th Hussars, since the very beginning of war with Italy (6/40 - now it starts at 1/42).
The new turret was fixed (so the Boys was fixed as well) and open from a top. They had also a smoke mortar. [Osprey New Vanguard 189 - Rolls-Royce armoured cars]

On the other hand, 126 Rolls Royce A/C (class 11) should end at some 4/40 at best (now 9/41) - unmodified cars weren't used in combat on main theatres of WWII, and the rest of their service is covered by 602 colonial RR (some were waiting for an invasion in Great Britain). If 603 is changed to class 11, then a lifespan of unmodified 602 can be extended.

All 126, 602, 603 Rolls Royce - correct name is "Rolls-Royce" (I suggest "Rolls-Royce A/C", like #126, for all).

Seems, that Guy armoured cars (375, 376) in fact weren't used in combat, apart from 6 vehicles in French campaign. They were next used for training and defence of Great Britain. Maybe they shouldn't be available to a player in African theatre?... (the only British armoured cars in Africa until early 1941 were Rolls-Royce and Morris CS9, then Marmon-Herringtons) [AFV Weapons Profile 21 - Armoured cars]

628 75mm MkII FG - picture 23015 is Russian 3in Putilov

733 Tetrarch ICS - photo 27624 looks like CS

735 Daimler A/C - I suggest to call it "Daimler AC (LJ)" to avoid confusion with ordinary one

865 Carden Lloyd VI - correctly "Carden Loyd VI"
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Default Re: British OOB7 corrections/suggestions (v.6)

Several proposed pictures (eg. British Boston and Gladiator, Huricane IIc, British Priest)
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Weapon 25 – 40mm Bofors AAG
The British Bofors was L/60 so should have its accuracy increased from 14 to 15
(The US version was L/56 and so has the correct accuracy).

Weapon 066 – 3.7in CSH
Rename ‘95mm CS How’
Every reliable source calls this gun 95mm not 3.7 inch.
http://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/30025513

The ‘95mm CS How’ was the newer L/18 gun used by Cromwell and Churchill tanks.
The 3.7in How (weapon 67) was the older L/12 gun used by A9, A10, A13 tanks, and was also an Infantry Gun, which all appears to be correctly modeled in the game, weapon 66 just needs the name change.

Weapon 85 - Molotov
Rename ‘AW Bomb No.76’ or ‘SIP Petrol Bomb’ or just plain ‘Petrol Bomb’
‘Molotov Cocktail’ was coined by Finland in the Winter War, and wouldn’t have been used by the Brits for some time.

Weapon 96 - Lewis M.25 LMG
Rename ‘.303 Lewis Gun’
Naming the Lewis Gun an LMG is technically correct, but it’s a bit like naming the US BAR
‘BAR LMG’.

Weapon 114 - S&W.38 Revolver
Rename ‘Webley Revolver’
Webley is the classic British WWI & WWII revolver, rather than a US gun, and doesn’t have to be abbreviated.

Weapon 146 – Sniper Rifle
Rename to ‘Rifle No.3 (T)’
The standard WWII British sniper rifle, (T) is for telescopic sight

Weapon 180 - 110 lb Bomb
British had a 120 lb Bomb, which was used a little in the early war - rename 120-lb GP Bomb (or just ‘120 lb Bomb’)
http://www.wwiiequipment.com/index.p...ombs&Itemid=60

Weapon 188 - 5in Naval Gun
Weapon either has wrong class, or should be renamed to ‘5in Coast Gun’

Weapon 229 – Pole Mine
Rename ‘Bangalore Trpdo’?

Weapon 242 - .303 Rifle
Rename to ‘.303 Rifle No.4’ which was the standard WWII British rifle
The .303 SMLE Rifle was the classic WWI rifle, and was still used by Home Guard and Colonial units.


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Seems, that Guy armoured cars (375, 376) in fact weren't used in combat, apart from 6 vehicles in French campaign. They were next used for training and defence of Great Britain. Maybe they shouldn't be available to a player in African theatre?...
I've noticed, that there's no problem, since Guys are classified as Light AC and available only in a formation Home Defence.

But then, Ironside Mk.III (Humber LRC III) of the same class should also be available as an Armoured car - they were used from 11/42 in North Africa (Tunisian campaign) until the end of war, by recce units of infantry divisions. [Osprey New Vanguard 177 Humber_Light_Reconnaissance_Car_1941-45]

Some British recce units in Italy used also Otters (#125 from Canadian OOB) and Greyhounds, that could be added.

There is also an interesting Morris LRC possible to add, but it would need new icon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morris_...nnaissance_Car )
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