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Old September 25th, 2013, 03:28 PM

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Default Re: Off-map artillery

Romania

Info is based upon this Romanian page http://www.worldwar2.ro/arme/?language=ro&section=18 and Chamberlain/Gardner.

For guns already analysed in their "mother" oobs, I give a model in a first place.

31 75mm vz.28 FG - 165 - real 13.1km = 203!
(according to http://www.worldwar2.ro/arme/?article=305 and Chamberlain).
In fact vz.28 had long L/40 barrel and on this Romanian page it is quoted among field guns (it was regarded a mountain gun by Skoda, and it was a twin to to Yugoslavian 76mm vz.28).
The only unit that uses it is 134 mountain gun, from 5/44 only - I don't know why.
It seems, that it should be Artillery class, used maybe from some mid-30s (no precise info), and icon should have long barrel, eg. 2112

33 75mm vz.15 FG - 140 - it's on-map, though, but according to http://www.worldwar2.ro/arme/?article=323 its range was 8250 m = 165
(BTW: unit 395 76mm Mtn Gun should have icon 2109, like unit 133)

35 75mm Krupp FG - 200 - likely OK (model 1907/12, data unknown)
(BTW: unit 392 should have single-tail icon 2122, like unit 145 with the same gun)

36 76mm M1936 FH - 207 - Soviet F-22 M.36 = 204 (13.6 km)
37 75mm M1897 FG - 203 - French 75 = 201/202 (11+km)
(BTW: icon of units 143 and 394 should be longer-barrel 2112, like in the French oob)

39 76mm ZIS-3 FH - 208 - Soviet Zis-3 M.42 = 204 (13.3 km)
43 76mm Putilov FG - 200 - pretty OK (Russian M.02 gun)
(BTW: units 144 and 393 should have icon 2111 - unit 144 now uses 2122, but it should differentiate from 75mm Krupp using 2122 as well)

63 105mm vz.40/43 - 213 - real 11 km = 201 (http://www.worldwar2.ro/arme/?article=801)

64 100mm vz.16 FH - 202 - old Skoda mountain howitzer - according to http://www.worldwar2.ro/arme/?article=327 only 7.7km

65 105mm leFH 16 - 203 - German leFH-16 = 200 (9+ km)

66 105mm Krupp FH - 200. According to a quoted page, apart from md.1916, which is probably leFH16, only two models of Krupp 105 mm were used: md. 1898/09 and md. 1912, both with lousy range of 6+ km, what should make them on-map. I don't know, why this old gun is used from 1943 only (units 176,177) - probably it should be from 1/30.

67 100mm vz.14 FH - 203 - Skoda = 200 (9.3km)

69 100mm vz.30 FH - 207 - real 16km = 206 (Skoda gun, no info on Romanian service in Chamberlain's book, but a quoted page lists vz.30, without details).
Newer Skoda md.34 also had 16 km - http://www.worldwar2.ro/arme/?article=313

70 122mm M10-30 FH - 207, real 8.9km = no more, than 200 (Russian sources). Name should be changed to M10/30. Romanian page http://www.worldwar2.ro/arme/?article=319 even gives 7.6km range..

71 105mm mle.36 FH - 213 - real 16km = 206 (http://www.worldwar2.ro/arme/?article=310 and Chamberlain).

74 105mm leFH 18 - 202 - OK
BTW: unit 140 should have icon 2125 like in German oob

75 105mm mle.13 FH - 203 - OK (French)

End of part I - there's too much. I also wrote some comments as for units, because I probably won't review Romania in detail.

Michal
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