Polish OOB2 corrections/suggestions (v.6)

[zastava128]

BTW: formation 254 Captured Tank should have experience modifier around -10 (two tanks were captured during Warsaw Uprising, and their crews were improvised - luckily they didn't have to fight against German tanks, though appeared useful in support)

There should be also added captured Hetzer and SdKfz-251 in 8/44-9/44.

This actually raises another question: do such "one-off" or "disposable" vehicles need to be included in the OOB at all? Aren't they already covered by the "Set Captured" function under the "Allies" tab?

Also, I think vehicles used purely for training and "mascots" shouldn't be included.

Of course, it's Don and Andy's decision in the end.

[Mobhack]

Originally Posted by zastava128

This actually raises another question: do such "one-off" or "disposable" vehicles need to be included in the OOB at all? Aren't they already covered by the "Set Captured" function under the "Allies" tab?

Also, I think vehicles used purely for training and "mascots" shouldn't be included.

Of course, it's Don and Andy's decision in the end.

Pretty much the case - such items can be left for scenario designers to utilise for one-offs.

Things like the the Australian captured Italian armour, which was used fully for a few months, do deserve inclusion since someone just might want a few in his campaign core.

Of course - every OOB designer is free to add such things to say a training or captured tank formation for "flavour". But 2 items used for a month or so, likely not.

Andy

[Pibwl]

Originally Posted by zastava128

This actually raises another question: do such "one-off" or "disposable" vehicles need to be included in the OOB at all? Aren't they already covered by the "Set Captured" function under the "Allies" tab?

Also, I think vehicles used purely for training and "mascots" shouldn't be included.

I won't defend PzKpfw IVH (unless I find it actually fired at Germans), but the rest may stay - one should first know, which captured equipment could be used, to be historically accurate.

There was a whole platoon of PzKpfw-IIIs used, and they had a chance to see action (bigger, than Polish Crusaders used for training in the UK). Autoblinda was, sadly, only one, but it gives much flavour (http://odkrywca.pl/forum_pics/picsforum25/ab41_d10.jpg) and it also could see action.

As for Warsaw Uprising vehicles - Panthers were two, and they fought actively. Also at least two SdKfz-251 were used. Hetzer was one, but, shamefully, it wasn't actually used (kept in reserve, until it was bombed in a garage).

BTW: it would be good to add also insurgent Kubuś improvised APC http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kubu%C5%9B
As Błażej suggested, a good-looking icon is 2845 (possibly even it's the one?). It could be used in 8-9/44, crew=2, size=4 (quite big), carry=10, weight=10, speed=some 15 (no precise data), no radio, no FC, no RF, armour 1 all around (or 2 - it was of thin plates, but double-layer spaced, and well-sloped).
The armament is usually given as 7.62mm DP LMG and flamethrower, though it probably was variable through service.