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Old January 7th, 2014, 09:10 PM
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Don,
I'm giving you what I have on the following unit for submission with my 2nd PP now as I feel you might be in a better position to answer the ammo side of this unit and how you want to handle the TI/GSR issue. If you find more than I can on the round by time I submit the full submission all the better! If this round is ready to be fielded later (Or sooner.) this year it will have ramifications regarding the T-90AM/MS and ARMATA. Concerning the TI/GSR I see max. 45 here if that. If the T-72B4 comes to fruition we'll definitely be at TI/GSR 50 as that tank is supposed to have the full FCS of the T-90AM/MS. And yes everyone there is a T-72B1 which I stumbled upon researching this tank and the refs are tripping over themselves on in reporting the B3.-I'm not interested in it at this time as my "sketch" has been drawn for this next submission already.
Still rough but good enough for this...

A1. RUSSIA/ADD/OCT 2013/T-72B3/125mm SB 2A46M-5/AREANA/RELISK ERA.//
The following is taken from the last ref. below Post #749…
“Yeah its weird, other stupid thing is the non-automatic sight cover.
Good summary of T-72B3 upgrade:
-overhaul of T-72B or B1
-new autoloader(for "Svinets" APFSDS)
-new 125mm 2A46M5 gun
-new FCS, and new gunner main sight "Sosna-U"(same sight on T-90MS) 1A40 used as a backup
-new radiostation R-168-25U-2
-commander sight TKN-3MK with "duplication" mode

T-72B4 as we know will add the commanders panoramic sight (same as T-90MS) as well as battle management systems.”

Pretty much falls in line with what I can find out about these tanks. The FCS is very much in line with existing T-90S models I would think with improvement of T-90MS components as noted above. Also of interest is the “Svinets” APFSDS round, seeing reports that tesdting has recently been completed and MOD is ready to field this round now. Don’t know status of this round however, I believe you might have better access in ammo sources then me generally.
http://en.ria.ru/military_news/20131...ded-Tanks.html
http://www.armyrecognition.com/octob...k_1510132.html
http://en.ria.ru/military_news/20130...-Ministry.html
http://defense-update.com/20131106_t...eployment.html
http://www.themoscowtimes.com/busine...ar/491336.html
http://www.russianarmor.info/Tanks/ARM/2a46.html
http://otvaga2004.mybb.ru/viewtopic.php?id=779&p=2
http://www.russiadefence.net/t1868p7...ces-photosnews


This require a little more thought and work than anything I have in the MBT area so far. My headache I'm working through is the LAHAT issue for ARJUN MKI after reading some reports of the ARJUN MKII final trials report with only two hits one being problems firing the LAHAT from the ARJUN MKII. Now you see my concern with MKI.

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Old January 7th, 2014, 10:17 PM
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I forgot/was called away so I didn't get to post these pictures from the next to last ref. from the last post. I'm sure you'll find a use for them.
T-72B3...
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Don,
Is the South African 105mm SA83 the homegrown improved version of the 105mm L7 UK73 as shown as being used by UNIT 004 OLIFANT MK1? I have as you know put off work on these units for a couple of years now. However it's time to address the issues for all the OLIFANT units in the OOB. Things I see are in dates (production vs service), main guns and system development leading to the deletion of at least one unit. Working it.
I have in the meantime a better pic for your consideration for the OLIFANT MK1A as shown in Angola in early 1988.
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