Smoke Dischargers, And Fragmentation Grenades Fired From These

[Turret]

Originally Posted by RightDeve

Why range 0? Do you think they're not thrown by these dischargers? Why would the gunners want to splatter their own vehicle with grenades? Even man-thrown grenade has a range of 1 hex (in reality about 30 meters). If anything should have range 0, then it is explosive devices like mines, IED, and other static boobytraps like that.

Do you really expect that smoke discharger slots cover 360 degrees?

Man-thrown grenades have no effect on most armoured vehicles. The vehicle would be better off shooting grenades of it's own.

[RightDeve]

Originally Posted by Turret

Man-thrown grenades have no effect on most armoured vehicles. The vehicle would be better off shooting grenades of it's own.

hahaha... what's your point?
last night i stumbled upon your previous post in which you essentially refuted your own post as if addressing another person.

don't take this as an offence, but i think you're funny.


edit: it does have effect; suppression, buttoned up, possible external wire damage, what are you thinking?

[FASTBOAT TOUGH]

Just for general information the weaponized GALIX is only on Sweden's STRV-122A and STRV-122B tanks as again as already posted, there is no evidence to support the weaponized use of the GALIX system by any other country user; I don't know if it is a violation of NATO, EU self defense treaty rules or doctrine of the countries themselves. Sweden I believe and I'm guessing here; is just trying to give itself every advantage it can get to the small army it has. Let's not forget they were one of the first if not the first to develop a system like the STRIX which is a very effective (See videos in Forum or other.) AT mortar round.
In my campaign SWEDEN vs. RUSSIA the GALIX fires out to the adjacent hex and has taken a toll on Russian infantry units that have come upon my tanks unexpectedly. Light casualties, suppression, retreat or a combination of the three depending on the situation. Seems to be working properly and as I expected given the information I submitted.

Regard,
Pat

[shahadi]

Originally Posted by FASTBOAT TOUGH

Just for general information the weaponized GALIX is only on Sweden's STRV-122A and STRV-122B tanks as again as already posted,

Is the French Leclerc no longer fitted with the Galix anti-personnel system or vehicle protection system?

Abraham

[scorpio_rocks]

Originally Posted by shahadi

Is the French Leclerc no longer fitted with the Galix anti-personnel system or vehicle protection system?

Abraham

I believe the UAE "desert" Leclerc and Italy's Centauro also mount it.

[FASTBOAT TOUGH]

When I saw these posts yesterday out of town I just had to walk away shake my head and smile so as not to influence my mood with a evening with CINCLANTHOME.
I REALLY WISH SOME PEOPLE WOULD TAKE A DEEP BREATH OUT HERE AND JUST READ THE POST AS SLOWLY AS NEEDED TO UNDERSTAND IT. Please just give it one more go around. But for those not so inclined and for clarification here you go.
Tank grenade launchers primary purpose is to act as part of a defensive suite to protect armor. They generally use the following defensive grenades; conventional smoke grenades, anti-IR aerosol/smoke grenades, anti-Laser aerosol/smoke, chaff aerosol/smoke or a combination of the last three. Examples of weaponized grenades (Weaponized was used in my last post and as quoted.) would include Stun/Flash Bang grenades, HE Frag and HEAP grenades. Back to GALIX...

1. GALIX is only one example of many such systems.

2. All those countries still have GALIX.

3. Only SWEDEN to date is known to use weaponized grenades along with the defensive ones carried as part of their GALIX system. I'm still looking into the other countries but to no avail so far. Also it looks like SWEDEN is also using weaponized grenades on their CV-9030's as well ,BUT, I'm not satisfied with the amount and to some degree the source material to support this claim at this time.

Also in no manner am I talking about mortars here which have nothing to do with this discussion as carried on the Turkish M60T and a number of Israeli tanks SABRA and MERKAVA's. And because I know SOMEONE will ask, that issue is in many threads in the forum to include the MBT one but since I'm in a good mood...we don't have the weapons slots to include them-I'd personally rather have the main gun and MG's anyway.

And "shame on you" that someone who spent a career in the NAVY and worse on SUBMARINES should have to point this out!?! It's almost embarrassing-where's gingertanker when I need him!?! got it, so I'll just for awhile but not before we have some and and maybe even a yeah skip the last and just know I'll be . Sorry Don (He really doesn't like these things except these (This a rare and collectible one!!) for other people like me once in awhile.) just couldn't resist.

Regards,
Pat

[shahadi]

Yes, I agree, everyone ought to slow down and take a deep breath. The question I asked merely, and I'll state it here again, "Is the French Leclerc no longer fitted with the Galix anti-personnel system or vehicle protection system?" Please note "anti-personnel," which as I understand the term weaponized as used in this thread, is weaponized, i.e. it can kill. Clearly, an "anti-personnel" system as discussed in this thread is weaponized.

Please see: https://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/...ocs/3aps98.pdf. Scroll to page 4, middle column or search document for The Galix System. Therein it is stated: "It can fire 80mm smoke rounds, anti-personnel rounds, or decoy rounds out to 30-50 meters."

Fastboat Tough assets that only Sweden has a weaponized system, although Galix is manufactured by the French company, Nexter. Again we find in Army Technology the following: "The Galix system can launch smoke or anti-personnel grenades or infrared decoys."

Again, a little civility please in our discussions.

Abraham