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Don,
Read the bottom para first before you start on this-please!
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Don,
I agree I know of only those two versions as well, which is good for the Russian slot situation, hey two is a victory in that area. I like my boys from the Ukraine (1st Ref.) but the French (2nd ref.) are really good. The issue here is that the Ukrainians are saying the TOS-1 was not accepted into the Russian Army whereas the French said it was which was always my understanding. I recommend delete whatever those other units are and keep the below in until we have time to sort out TOS-1 as option 1. However there is an option 2 to consider based on the below video ref. and write up, which is to lock out the TOS-1.
As to Iraq and Syria (Though it is conjecture as to whether Syria has TOS-1 (I am not ready myself to give it to them.)) these were on my work list the deals also included the PANSYTR System as well for both. I'll give you what I have below.

TOS-1 Data comparison...
http://www.military-today.com/artillery/tos1.htm
http://www.armyrecognition.com/russi...ications_.html


TOS-1A Data comparison...
http://www.military-today.com/artillery/tos_1a.htm
http://www.armyrecognition.com/russi...ications_.html


As we have been down this road before the following will show a short video of a Russian exercise involving the TOS-1. Reminiscent of the North Korean tank situation from the MBT Thread, you might remember some of that was addressed when I counted the "road wheels" of the tanks. Now watch the below video pause it at the launcher, count the tubes,unless I'm really tired I got 24 tubes. Everyone is agreeing that the TOS-1 has 30 tubes, so the video labeled TOS-1 is really showing the TOS-1A with 24 tubes. Also your Iraqi picture shows you got it...24 tubes.
You gotta love life!
http://www.military.com/video/ammuni...1277144437001/

Iraq and Syria ...
http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/...s-again-07571/
(As this article shows I have work in this area under the Contract section look to 10/14.)
http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/...billion-03391/


Other issues on my list for Iraq and Syria
http://www.janes.com/article/47826/d...aq-as-positive
http://www.janes.com/article/47872/i...rian-d-20-guns


I need too hit the rack, for Russia Option 1 would be the easiest to deal with not knowing how much you're putting on yourself and what your timeline is. Besides I'm going to throw you two "softballs" over the next two days.

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Iraq and Syria ...
http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/...s-again-07571/
(As this article shows I have work in this area under the Contract section look to 10/14.)
http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/...billion-03391/


Other issues on my list for Iraq and Syria
http://www.janes.com/article/47826/d...aq-as-positive
http://www.janes.com/article/47872/i...rian-d-20-guns


Regards,
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There may be earlier links but this one is dated June 2013 and contains false information like the range of the TOS is 60km ( that added zero makes a big difference but that's corrected later in the article ) but what's "interesting" is this goes back to "pre ISIS" days when Assad was the worlds boogyman and Russia was supporting him when most everyone else wanted him gone.( then the middle east would be in peace and harmony)...... now the weapons are starting to show up and ISIS has shown itself to be unsupportable ( and nobody says anything about Assad anymore ) and suddenly this all seems like a pretty good idea

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