Czechoslovak OOB37 and Slovak OOB01

[Pibwl]

Slovak OOB01

02,02 LT vz.35, LT vz.34 - official Slovak designations were LT-35, LT-34.
They both used three-color camouflage, like in the CS army - icon 473.
Both were used until the end (10/43 for this OOB) for training (although LT 35 indeed were withdrawn from front service by the end of 1941, and LT-34 weren't used in combat).

07,11 LT- vz.38, LT- vz.40 - names LT-38, LT-40.
Both should use the same khaki green camouflage - I think icon 1047 is appropriate for both (and in accordance with next tanks in OOB)

According to a Czech book on the Slovak Army, LT-40 tanks were completed with guns only in 12/41 - earlier they took part in combat armed with two MGs only (there should be made a second entry) - a photo http://utocnavozba.wz.cz/foto/Fotky_Praga/LT-40_01.jpg http://www.uhlib.ru/voennaja_istorij...ii/pic_754.jpg .

In 9/43 the Germans delivered first new LT-38 E/G variant, with stronger armour, that could be added (it's worth to add them also to Czechoslovak OOB, as participating in the Slovak uprising)

32 PzKw IIc - in fact, delivered only in 10/43 (the last month of this OOB). Class Armoured car is acceptable, since they replaced armoured cars in recce units.

33 PzKw IIIj - in fact, they should be PzKpfw III N (with short 75mm guns), delivered in 2/43.

34 Marder I 37L - they should be Marder III H. In fact they were delivered only in early 1944, but it's worth to keep them in 10/43
(BTW: why does this OOB end in 10/43?... Slovak axis units lasted until the uprising in 8/44 at least, though they tried to avoid active combat if they could)

52 OA vz 30bis - there's no mention about OA vz 30 armed with 20mm guns in Czech books (and these cars were too light to even accept a HMG...)

80 75mm Pak 97 - I couldn't find a confirmation of their usage, but PAK-40 were used from 1943

82,83 47mm KPUV vz 38 - the Czech book on Slovak army doesn't mention 47mm AT guns, only 37mm (I assume, that all were taken by the Germans, who needed them more)

86 47mm AA-Gun - strange gun, I couldn't find any confirmation.

142 Tatra T92 AOP - should be T82 (on the photo; T92 doesn't seem to be used by Slovakia)

158 Avia B.534 - as in the Czechoslovak OOB (6 x 10kg bombs max)

223 Avia Bf 109G - should be just Bf 109G (Avia was a manufacturer of post-war machines)

Easy additions:
- RSO tractor from 1943
- Aero A.100 bomber from Czechoslovak OOB (14 were used)
- Praga T-VI tractor (#223 from Romanian OOB, with changed class)
- Praga IV tractor, if it's added to Czechoslovak OOB
- 100 mm vz.14/19 FH (most numerous FH, as in a previous post)
- Praga RN medium truck (#212 from Romanian OOB)
- Praga AV utility vehicle (#216 from Romanian OOB)
- Tatra 57 field car (#222 from Romanian OOB, as utility vehicle and/or FO vehicle)

[Pibwl]

Last one:

Czechoslovakia:

4 CKD ST vz.39 - it should use a bigger icon 469 (of Turan) - now it's the same as light LT vz.38.
Manufacturer's name is redundant.

13 Tatra Truck - a detail, but maybe it's worth to change class to Light Truck (which it was in fact) instead of APC(wheel) - it's the only unit in both classes in that period, so it won't demand other changes.

142 Tatra T92 AOP - a better name might be just Tatra AOP - pictured is T82 (in truck variant), used from 1936, but earlier there were used other 3-axle cars T26/30 and T72. T92 is wrong (haven't entered production before the German invasion).

158 Avia B534 uses a photo of less typical early version with open canopy (173 made) - an icon of the Czechoslovak aviation was the 4sth series, with a closed canopy (272 made, attached sample photo)

163 Avia BH-33L - I couldn't confirm, if BH-33 took any bombs, and it's highly unlikely, that it carried 50kg one. All publications mention only 2 MGs.

166-168,217-219 La-5N - should be FN

Easy additions:
- Praga RN medium truck (#212 from Romanian OOB) in 1934-39
- Praga AV utility vehicle (#216 from Romanian OOB) in 1936-39

[DRG]

Originally Posted by Pibwl

Last one:

I fervently hope you are serious about that

Don

[DRG]

Originally Posted by Pibwl

Last one:

In my dreams............

Originally Posted by Pibwl;832540
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4 CKD ST vz.39 - it should use a bigger icon 469 (of Turan) - now it's the same as light LT vz.38.

Actually there is a ST vz.39 Icon already in the SHP files but it's old ( 475 ) so I was going to use the green version of the Type 97 Chi-Ha Kai as it's much closer to the vz.39 than one would guess but then realized converting it to the Czech prototype was a relativity quick job




4x normal

[Pibwl]

I was serious about the last post in this subject, to make you feel more relaxed

I didn't want to add you work with a relatively unimportant prototype, but in service they would be camouflaged... (standard green-yellow-brown). BTW: you probably know this upper view
http://www.the-blueprints.com/bluepr...vz39-v-8-h.png

One more thought, since I wrote this post anyway. It would be cool to add PA-II Zelva armoured car http://www.tanks-encyclopedia.com/ww...A-II_Zelva.php
An icon 3255 of Humber scout car would be almost ideal, albeit green.
Of course, no more than 2 of its 4 MGs could fire at one target.
According to Kliment's book, a designation OA vz.23 was only a planned one, since they were never officially commissioned.

Regards
Michal

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Originally Posted by Pibwl

I didn't want to add you work with a relatively unimportant prototype, but in service they would be camouflaged...

Yes but Michael... THEY WERE NEVER IN SERVICE and therefore were never camouflaged and that's why it's staying light green