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Fallout Re: SP and SPAA Developments

Not there yet but, certainly bears watching...
http://www.janes.com/article/57074/t...improvised-sam

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Well I took some "heat" for submitting this unit back 2011 because some felt it was redundant to the Russian "SMERCH" however, as I've mentioned we're at a point (and beyond) that if we don't start typing units down to their nomenclature we're going to have a difficult time in tracking when units go away and or get improved. Let's take the ABRAMS for example, if we just listed all the current ABRAMS tanks in the USA/USMC OOB's as ABRAMS can you imagine trying to figure which are no longer in service or have been modified? Dates alone cannot tell you the whole story as variants tend to overlap each other-as with the ABRAMS. We do an excellent job with armor and better then average with the rest however, this game is transitioning to either a straight calendar end date extension or some kind've "partitioning" to the new end date, doesn't matter the point being is proper designation of units will ensure the right ones carry on past 2020. Including units that might be redundant. The TORNADO-S was entered as submitted - thank you Don - and the GRAD & SMERCH units in the Russian Army are still on track to be removed from active service in 2020. Russia has just replaced over 40 more Russia rocket artillery units with the TORNADO-S and one more below.
http://www.armyrecognition.com/janua..._11701163.html
http://www.military-today.com/artillery/9a52_4.htm THIS IS A
EARLY UNIT.
http://www.armyrecognition.com/russi...formation.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcRSW_Djq5Q

See Pg. 3 Post #30 APR. 6, 2011 & Pg. 4 Post #35 SEP. 26, 2011 for further info.


Now the following which is in service is designated the TORNADO-G this version apparently was designed to fire their latest anti-armor CM munitions and standard munitions apparently as well. I didn't see it in the OOB, I might've missed it, if so my apologies in advance. However it does further make my point from above.
TORNADO-G/JAN or JUN 2012 (Dates range from 2011 to one I saw that said APR. 2012.)/CREW 2-3/CAB UNARMORED/40 ROCKETS/4x10 LAUNCHER/USE THE CURRENT GRAD/BM-21 ICON NOTE: THE TRUCKS ARE NEWER THEY'LL HAVE SLIGHTLY BETTER CROSS COUNTRY ABILITIES AND SPEED/DESIGNED FOR "SHOOT AND SCOOT" DUE TO NEWER FCS etc./THE REFS INDICATE IT CAN LAUNCH AND CLEAR THE AREA TO 3-4Km BEFORE THE ROCKETS HIT THE GROUND. COULDN'T TELL IF IT'S "ONE AND DONE" SCOOT AND RELOAD OR IF THEY HAVE "RIPPLE LAUNCH" CAPABILITY.
http://www.military-today.com/artillery/tornado_g.htm
http://www.armyrecognition.com/russi..._pictures.html
http://www.deagel.com/Multiple-Launc...002668001.aspx
http://sputniknews.com/military/2015...025004996.html


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