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April 10th, 2016, 12:40 AM
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Re: Jets & Planes but no UAV's here.
I'm not sure of the confusion, I'm merely pointing an aircraft's progression is tied into technological advances across the board to include avionics (Non factor in our game.), electronics (EW, Vision) and weapons. The RAF has not let you down many of the TYPHOON T2/T3 improvements dealt specifically with it's fighter-bomber capabilities some were weapons and others sensor driven (Which means software updates etc. etc.). What I really didn't pay attention to is it's SEAD role it appears to be highly capable of that mission as well. Because I won't pay ADOBE for certain services, I can't extract the data I wanted off their (Eurofighter) PDF download of technical data. However I found the same charts on line for the TYPHOON's various weapons configurations. The comparison picture of the side by side weapons configurations of the TYPHOON and RAFALE are from a different source but very useful none the less.
The actual picture is of a TYPHOON T1. Again do note the SEAD configuration.
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April 10th, 2016, 04:12 AM
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Re: Jets & Planes but no UAV's here.
I missed this initially as I looked for it under TYPHOON and not EUROFIGHTER..., so these guys are pretty good and it discusses the "progression" issue I brought in my last 2 posts. The following is taken from ref. 1 below..."The contract for tranche 2 phase 1 enhancement (P1E) was placed in March 2007. This includes the integration of Raytheon Paveway IV 500lb and Enhanced Paveway EGBU-16 1,000lb guided bombs and a new laser designator pod."
So as you can see it covers new weapons and an improved laser targeting system. Except for some work here to get these in, I don't know what more I can offer here concerning this plane.
http://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/ef2000/
http://www.military-today.com/aircra...er_typhoon.htm
http://www.combataircraft.com/en/Mil...-2000-Typhoon/
I'm off to la la land it was a busy week at the "grind".
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April 13th, 2016, 06:34 AM
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Re: Jets & Planes but no UAV's here.
I note that not everyone likes F35 on here. Understandably enough given its cost, delays, etc.
I used to be a critic of it myself, especially the STOVL F35B for the Royal Navy, being a supporter of putting cats and traps on the two very large new RN carriers and buying Super Hornet and, perhaps, later F35C.
However, sadly, this is not going to happen, although the good news is that the normal, peace time, carrier air group on the carriers will now be 24 -rather than the original rather pathetic 12- F35B...
Why did I change my mind about F35? Simple really, having worked hard for years to make sure my boy did not follow family tradition and join the Army -too many dead soldiers in wars we did not win, and never had a plan to win, in Iraq and Afghan for my taste- he decided to try for a Commission after University in the Royal Navy, Fleet Air Arm. Oh the plans of mice and men...
Anyway to bring this back on topic, F35 seems just as easy as any other aircraft for SAMs to destroy in the game, despite its (frontal ark) stealth. Is that the case?
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April 13th, 2016, 08:46 AM
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Re: Jets & Planes but no UAV's here.
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I note that not everyone likes F35 on here.
Anyway to bring this back on topic, F35 seems just as easy as any other aircraft for SAMs to destroy in the game, despite its (frontal ark) stealth. Is that the case?
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Probably better asked in a separate thread but game terms defence wise its a standard decent modern ground attack plane similar to British Typhoon, JSF
EW of 7-10 & size of 4-5 are the norm for the good stuff.
So yes its in the same ballpark its not a F22 that's in a different league entirely with its high EW
Its main problem is its slow so fairly vulnerable to AAA guns as they get to fire more shots at it.
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April 13th, 2016, 09:58 AM
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Re: Jets & Planes but no UAV's here.
The Afghans are starting to use the Super Tocano with laser guided Paveway and Hellfire missile among other options. So far it's been a great option against an enemy without much air defense.
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April 13th, 2016, 11:36 AM
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Re: Jets & Planes but no UAV's here.
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Its main problem is its slow so fairly vulnerable to AAA guns as they get to fire more shots at it.
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It's the classic problem.
Slow aircraft hit ground targets better, fast ones are less vulnerable to AA.
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April 13th, 2016, 02:28 PM
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Re: Jets & Planes but no UAV's here.
Except on any military board you care to name -let alone any air force board F35 is the greatest thing since sliced bread... Why?
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