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Old August 22nd, 2016, 02:03 AM
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Fallout Re: Jets & Planes but no UAV's here.

This newer article backs what I've been posting about the joint Russian/Indian T-50/PAK-FA fighter-bomber it might not be as stealthy as originally thought. However she'll be a much better in dog fight then the the F-35 which this article has maintained that distinction as expressed over the last five years or so. It could've been better if India had had it's way. India wanted the fighter with better stealth qualities to deal with the Chinese and Pakistani Air Forces.

What happened? Yes that nasty economic thing almost ended up killing the project for both countries and Russia more so as it's experiencing mounting economic pressures brought on by the worlds oil glut and widespread corruption within it's economic system (Soshi comes to mind, in the fact that S. Korea will have their Olympic facilities built for about 2/3 to 3/4 of the cost less then the Russians did 2yrs ago.)

India's response was to buy the RAFALE.

There still is some great information in the diagrams provided concerning weapons and other capabilities.

To be clear this is still an outstanding warbird.
http://www.news.com.au/technology/ga...318265ed8252c5

Yup, tracking since day one.

Though it's in the game, I suspect there might be some "tweaking" to come down the road, especially depending on what India will do to their fighters. If they add some of the equipment they want, which might actually happen, the PAK-FA will at a minimum have a higher EW rating then the Russian version. Time will tell as these fighters still are a couple or more years away from becoming fully operational.

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This newer article backs what I've been posting about the joint Russian/Indian T-50/PAK-FA fighter-bomber it might not be as stealthy as originally thought. However she'll be a much better in dog fight then the the F-35Regards,
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YEAH BUT.........we're not fighting WW1, "dog fighting" isn't the way things go anymore
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Fallout Re: Jets & Planes but no UAV's here.

Meant that in modern terms-sorry-it is thought with the capabilities of it's radar in range and search capability plus the Russian advanced Air-to-Air missiles now recently in service it would give the PAK-FA the edge. In maneuverability that will clearly fall to the PAK-FA as well due to the advanced "vectoring" system it uses. The experts feel in this area it performs almost as well as the F-22. We'll see though irrelevant to the game. Again the keys factors from last for us is we have a better handle on what she can drop on the ground and how much, she'll have an excellent EW rating though less then the F-22 but, should be comparable to the F-35 and she'll be fast without after burners, and they know she's got a very low heat signature in line with both the F-22 & F-35.

But to be clear (F-22) there's not a better fighter in the air in regards to it's electronics suite, EW, speed and finally stealth. As in the real world for this game it's the "Gold Standard" which is now combat proven.

Cannons I would guess are there to make the pilots feel comfortable in the air and so they have something to strafe with.

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Cannons I would guess are there to make the pilots feel comfortable in the air and so they have something to strafe with.

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Mind you the end of air to air dog fighting has been repeatedly predicted (before WWII, before Vietnam to name two I can think of) and it has yet to happen. A bit like the end of the Tank...
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