APC Development and related topics.

[Suhiir]

Any unit, and it's weapons, used in a scenario has to be in the OOB a player is using or you get an error; i.e. a generic unit placeholder and very odd (if any) stats.

[shahadi]

Originally Posted by Suhiir

Any unit, and it's weapons, used in a scenario has to be in the OOB a player is using or you get an error; i.e. a generic unit placeholder and very odd (if any) stats.

Originally Posted by shahadi

May I subsequently distribute a scenario with modified APC as described above without distributing the modified OOB?

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That is what I had thought. So, in designing a scenario, I am left with two alternatives use the USA 25mm M242 with sabot values or load the Bushmaster 30mm and give it sabot ammo.

Using these two options, I can publish a scenario without distributing a modified OOB.

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[FASTBOAT TOUGH]

Don is it safe to assume you have the USA 30mm STRYKER for the game handled for the next patch? First units were to ready by Dec. 2016 according to JANE's. I would personally use Jan. 2017. Haven't seen anything anything to this point to disrupt that time frame. The 30mm version being in limited numbers will also be up armored slightly from the current ones in the OOB as applique armor is to be added. Also they all will be SYRKYER's with V-Hulls so there should be a modifier for crew survival possibly considered.

Also the current in game STRYKER's should reflect the same starting about Jun. 2014 or Jan. 2015 (Same for the USMC for their LAV's were modified as well with V-Hulls I thought around this time frame as well.) if memory serves for a "new/modified" unit to be added to the OOB.

If you've got this one, I'll post all the refs I have for these units and clean out my APC folder//work-list of this unit. Please let me know at your convenience.

ICON looks great!!

Regards,
Pat


NEVER MIND:
http://www.armyrecognition.com/decem..._12312152.html
http://www.armyrecognition.com/january_2016_global_defense_security_news_industry/general_dynamics_secured_a_$75_million_to_integrat e_a_30mm_cannon_to_the_stryker_program_32001162.ht ml
http://www.armyrecognition.com/may_2016_global_defense_security_news_industry/us_army_awarded_general_dynamics_$329_m_contract_f or_the_stryker_infantry_vehicle_upgrade_50905164.h tml

An issue I'll still be tracking for the USA/USMC Light/Heavy Armor:
http://www.armyrecognition.com/june_..._10906162.html

The USMC LAV-AT new turret:
We had some debate about this vehicle when I submitted info to support it's continued fighting status for the USMC. It appears the newer version (UNIT 018 LAV-ATA2) will need a date modifier based on this next ref. something along the lines of Jun. 2016 but, I think Jan.2017 as a better date to allow for our "swag" based on the completion date of this contract. We do get a better look at the turret though and it has plenty of smoke grenade launchers as well as being better protected then the EMERSON Turret also with a better FCS as well. Also UNIT 027 LAV-ATA1 end date will need to extended out to match the new start date for the above UNIT 018.
http://www.armyrecognition.com/august_2016_global_defense_security_news_industry/raytheon_won_a_$30mn_contract_to_provide_us_marine _corps_with_anti-tank_variant_turrets_51808161.html

Not as much as I thought, which already means I've posted the rest in this thread.

[DRG]

Originally Posted by FASTBOAT TOUGH

Don is it safe to assume you have the USA 30mm STRYKER for the game handled for the next patch? First units were to ready by Dec. 2016 according to JANE's. I would personally use Jan. 2017. Haven't seen anything anything to this point to disrupt that time frame.
Regards,
Pat

Nope

The prototype vehicles will begin a series of industry “shakedown” testing prior to industry contractually delivering the vehicles to the Army in December. Government testing on the platforms begins in January 2017.

MAYBE later 2017...maybe it might get someplace in force. We'll see what we know in March

[DRG]

Originally Posted by shahadi

That is what I had thought. So, in designing a scenario, I am left with two alternatives use the USA 25mm M242 with sabot values or load the Bushmaster 30mm and give it sabot ammo.

Using these two options, I can publish a scenario without distributing a modified OOB.

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OK I was waiting for someone to suggest the obvious but I see that isn't happening ( everything but....)

Maybe a few others might pay attention as well----you're going to LEARN SOMETHING about the game

Buy your US Army Striker........it won't have the proper Icon until next patch but you seemed determined to add it to a scenario anyway........

Change to USMC...

OK so far ?

Now........go to the editor menu and press the " Change the current units data" button.

Now click on weapon 1.... Now...... remember the game now thinks you are USMC because you changed to USMC.....so it gives you the USMC weapon list ( !! )

Enter 77 for the weapon ( TA Da !! .........30mm Bushmaster complete with sabot pen data ) then add the ammo you want......this thing only carries 2x 75 rounds and with autocannot it's bursts so 12 HE and 13 Sabot is what it gets ( still under review along with how many troops it can carry )


Go back to the purchase screen,,,,,, change back to US army and save and this is what you will see

[shahadi]

Originally Posted by DRG

OK I was waiting for someone to suggest the obvious but I see that isn't happening ( everything but....)

Maybe a few others might pay attention as well----you're going to LEARN SOMETHING about the game

Buy your US Army Striker........it won't have the proper Icon until next patch but you seemed determined to add it to a scenario anyway........

Change to USMC...

OK so far ?

Now........go to the editor menu and press the " Change the current units data" button.

Now click on weapon 1.... Now...... remember the game now thinks you are USMC because you changed to USMC.....so it gives you the USMC weapon list ( !! )

Enter 77 for the weapon ( TA Da !! .........30mm Bushmaster complete with sabot pen data ) then add the ammo you want......this thing only carries 2x 75 rounds and with autocannot it's bursts so 12 HE and 13 Sabot is what it gets ( still under review along with how many troops it can carry )


Go back to the purchase screen,,,,,, change back to US army and save and this is what you will see

Voila. Excellent tutorial. Only thing I used the Modify the Current Unit's Data.

Now, in the Editor when I right click on the unit, and select Information, the 50 cal TMG not the Bushmaster is loaded in weapon slot 1.

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[DRG]

Originally Posted by shahadi

Now, in the Editor when I right click on the unit, and select Information, the 50 cal TMG not the Bushmaster is loaded in weapon slot 1.

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The information screen is reading the original unit data in the OOB not the modified unit you created..........it's always been that way

[FASTBOAT TOUGH]

Don my apologies but, now I realize why Jan. 2017 was stuck in my head, should've reread it before posting. However I think (Post #168) might be useful and the ones before it as well. Mostly to ensure we're using the right TOW II for those units. As noted then as being tested (3 yrs ago.) the TOW2 ITAS and AERO is now in use on the LAV-ATA1 for at least a year or more now from I can gather.

This next I've been tracking for over 8 yrs. now([b]Post #259[and the UK chose an APC that it turned down under the FRES Program. The BOXER is back however this will still require some additional tracking. FRES collapsed in 2008 when the final contract between the UK and GD for the PIRANHA 5 couldn't be settled upon. The BOXER was "rumored" to have a close second at the time. The new program was decided upon in Sep. 2015 and here it's only a year later and we as noted above, the BOXER wins. With BREXIT in play and Germany being seen as the "De Facto" leader of the EU and the UK wanting out of the EU on favorable terms and buying 800 units, it would seem some accommodation might be made in the UK's favor-but that's just "Conspiracy Theory" stuff!?! Anyway...
http://www.armyrecognition.com/octob..._11710161.html

If you think I was good in picking the BOXER back in the day when FRES was starting up, wait until you see what gets posted in the MBT Thread in a day or two!?! And right on time as well.

Anyway have a good night!

Regards,
Pat

[IronDuke99]

Originally Posted by FASTBOAT TOUGH

Don my apologies but, now I realize why Jan. 2017 was stuck in my head, should've reread it before posting. However I think (Post #168) might be useful and the ones before it as well. Mostly to ensure we're using the right TOW II for those units. As noted then as being tested (3 yrs ago.) the TOW2 ITAS and AERO is now in use on the LAV-ATA1 for at least a year or more now from I can gather.

This next I've been tracking for over 8 yrs. now([b]Post #259[and the UK chose an APC that it turned down under the FRES Program. The BOXER is back however this will still require some additional tracking. FRES collapsed in 2008 when the final contract between the UK and GD for the PIRANHA 5 couldn't be settled upon. The BOXER was "rumored" to have a close second at the time. The new program was decided upon in Sep. 2015 and here it's only a year later and we as noted above, the BOXER wins. With BREXIT in play and Germany being seen as the "De Facto" leader of the EU and the UK wanting out of the EU on favorable terms and buying 800 units, it would seem some accommodation might be made in the UK's favor-but that's just "Conspiracy Theory" stuff!?! Anyway...
http://www.armyrecognition.com/octob..._11710161.html

If you think I was good in picking the BOXER back in the day when FRES was starting up, wait until you see what gets posted in the MBT Thread in a day or two!?! And right on time as well.

Anyway have a good night!

Regards,
Pat

Interesting. Somewhere on here I posted a link to the whole sorry (and hugely expensive) FRES story. A vast amount of money indeed for the rather large and heavy, but otherwise underwhelming Ajax and the more or less off the shelf Boxer.

Someone still needs to tell me exactly what Ajax can do that Warrior 2000 cannot (both are about the same size and weight and have the same weapons system, although I think Ajax can swim). About the only thing I can think of is that Ajax can be crewed by the Royal Armoured Corps (Cavalry and Royal Tank Regt) thus adding tone to what would otherwise be a vulgar brawl...

One factual error in the link. The UK Pound Sterling has not "collapsed", or anything like it, since Brexit, despite the wishful thinking of assorted remaniacs and remoaners.

The largest British services website was about 80% in favour of leaving the EU on a site poll the day before the vote.


I'm also a little puzzled why a 60,000 man British Army that will have 250-300 Warrior 2000 really needs 800 of these Boxer 8x8's. Given the constraints in the UK Defence budget, and the need for more spending in other areas, especially the Royal Navy, I would have thought an order for 400 would have been enough for now. Boxer should be air portable for the British, but Ajax is not unless the RAF C-17 Globemaster's can carry one, but even if it can the RAF has only eight or nine of those aircraft.

[Suhiir]

Originally Posted by DRG

Go back to the purchase screen,,,,,, change back to US army and save and this is what you will see

Slick workaround for an OOB that has filled weapon slots AND allows people to use the default OOBs!

Who said Canuks weren't smart?