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August 18th, 2017, 10:04 PM
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Re: APC Development and related topics.
If nothing else the 1st photo in this certainly settles any unit size issues for WinSPMBT.
https://news.usni.org/2017/06/22/mar...covery-testing
The article also discusses the upcoming ACV-1.2 (a more amphibious capable variant intended to replace the AAV).
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August 22nd, 2017, 12:27 AM
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Re: APC Development and related topics.
FYI: Looks like China wants to broaden it's influence in the weapons export market further with the VN-17 HAPC. From the angle of the picture accompany ref. 1, looks like a 20mm and note the ATGW launcher one to each side. And at 30 tons, it should be well protected. A comparison is being made to the VT-5 LMBT. More on the new APS in ref. 2.
http://www.janes.com/article/73248/c...tection-system
GL5 APS: 360 degree protection with sensor (4) covering a 90 degree arc.
http://www.janes.com/article/73227/n...trates-gl5-aps
As a note about my post (About 2/3 weeks back in the MBT Thread.) on Ukraine's ZASLON APS, JANE's has cleared this up in my mind now. Based on what was posted, ZASLON technically speaking, should be a better system regarding detection as if you might remember each sensor covered a min. arc of +155 degrees of arc thus providing overlapping detection. The plus here should be obvious in that a MBT/APC could lose two sensors and still be well protected.
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August 24th, 2017, 12:25 AM
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Re: APC Development and related topics.
Well not that long ago I had a discussion in the MBT Thread I believe it was concerning the state of the Russian OOB and what I had on file just myself in dealing with soon to be and projected Russian equipment. Besides all the fairly new stuff like the T-14, T-15, BUMERANG etc. etc. now we can add the following below equipment to the ever increasing Russian OOB.
But before I do it is important to remember that the "newer" toys of the Russian Army will represent a much smaller part of the Army versus recapitalization of existing or if you resetting platforms much like the ABRAMS with the SEP modernization programs. Plain and simply it's a more cost effective solution especially when modernizing a large military force.
BTR-87:
http://www.janes.com/article/73305/a...ses-btr-87-apc
BMD-4M Airborne:
http://www.janes.com/article/73314/a...ernises-bmd-4m
China is in the act of doing the same (So are most major militaries.) this time a new variant of the VP-10 APC mounting a 105mm MG.
http://www.janes.com/article/73292/n...hicle-variants
The theme continues with the USA and consider this as an ongoing update. They hope to reach FOC by the Summer of 2018.
https://www.armyrecognition.com/augu...d_1180817.html
Some stuff from the ARMY-2017 Exhibition just outside of Moscow. The photos might be of useful for our purposes in many ways.
https://www.armyrecognition.com/army..._12308171.html
https://www.armyrecognition.com/army..._12208172.html
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August 24th, 2017, 08:50 AM
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Re: APC Development and related topics.
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Originally Posted by FASTBOAT TOUGH
Well not that long ago I had a discussion in the MBT Thread I believe it was concerning the state of the Russian OOB and what I had on file just myself in dealing with soon to be and projected Russian equipment. Besides all the fairly new stuff like the T-14, T-15, BUMERANG etc. etc. now we can add the following below equipment to the ever increasing Russian OOB.
But before I do it is important to remember that the "newer" toys of the Russian Army will represent a much smaller part of the Army versus recapitalization of existing or if you resetting platforms much like the ABRAMS with the SEP modernization programs. Plain and simply it's a more cost effective solution especially when modernizing a large military force.
BTR-87:
http://www.janes.com/article/73305/a...ses-btr-87-apc
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From the perspective of the game there is little difference between the BTR-82 and the BTR-87. Based on the specs from
http://www.military-today.com/apc/btr_82.htm
It has a marginally more powerful engine..12HP.... and a slight reduction in top speed.....90 kph vs 100 for the 82 ( but that's just one source......) it might have a bit more armour but that difference in power-speed might be " source distortion"......until there is further info I would be inclined to rename the 82 as BTR-82/87 but the 87 does show ATGM capability but that is not stated in the article
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already in the game
knowing what is up and coming is great but I am more interested in what was just delivered to the troops
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September 5th, 2017, 11:35 AM
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Re: APC Development and related topics.
A couple of program updates...
Australia: After over a year now the ADF has declared that Phase 1 Testing in the LAND 400 program has been completed on time. This is where the ADF is evaluating the AMV 35 against the BOXER. I still feel "my gut" instinct has me thinking the BOXER will win this competition. Phase 2 decision will be made during the 1st half of 2018 when evaluation of the Phase 1 results should be completed.
You'll notice I'm using a new ref. for this story. I've been mirroring this site against my normal ones for several months now and am confident enough to start using it out here. I hope some of you might find it useful as well.
http://www.asdnews.com/news-71565/Te...(LAND_400).htm
USMC: The CORPS has ordered a low rate production of 21 AAV-SU tracks. They should be delivered sometime between JAN - APR 2018 for what amounts to them being put into a " reliability growth testing program" for as of yet an unspecified period of time. The CORPS up to this point, took it through an initial 1.5yr. testing program.
https://www.armyrecognition.com/augu..._83108172.html
Just a couple of quick ones, have a good day. Hoping IRMA doesn't ruin my mini vacation!
Regards,
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