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Old November 11th, 2017, 06:28 PM
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Default Re: Will China and Russia Make U.S. F-22 and F-35 Stealth Fighters Obsolete?

How did this thread go from a plane obsolescence topic to ATGM systems?
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Old November 11th, 2017, 06:45 PM
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Post Re: Will China and Russia Make U.S. F-22 and F-35 Stealth Fighters Obsolete?

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How did this thread go from a plane obsolescence topic to ATGM systems?
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Now, this technology may find a welcome host in amored vehicles. That is jamming incoming ATGMs so as to cause the projectile to loose target acquisition.
In my intial post, I suggested cognitive jammers could be ported to tanks and that IR (heat or image) guided missiles can be defeated using high illuminated light and lasers.


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Old November 11th, 2017, 10:03 PM
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Default Re: Will China and Russia Make U.S. F-22 and F-35 Stealth Fighters Obsolete?

I once saw a Dragon (wire guided ATGM) gunner use the wire to his advantage by firing over obstacle and hitting something behind it. Admittedly this is something only an expert could probably do, but it can be done. The same would apply to the wire guided TOW.

Wire guided missiles have one very distinct advantage over the various fire-and-forget systems ... they're MUCH cheaper on a missile-by-missile basis, and cost is a factor. That's why the "best" toys are generally limited to Special Forces types.
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Default Re: Will China and Russia Make U.S. F-22 and F-35 Stealth Fighters Obsolete?

Not checked but most close in defence systems are made up of diffrent parts hard & soft kill or sometimes just soft kill.
Soft kill is the "dazzlers" you speak of, mainly for dazzling the missile could I suppose conceivably effect the firer if they are close enough & the system detects his position. IR smoke is another part of the soft kill option.
Dazzlers work cannot remember who involved but complaints recently from Terrorist organisations that Koronet is going out of control & diving to ground once it nears its target.
The game does or at least it seems to to me take the tech battle into account old ATGM's are far more likely to be defeated than newer ones, may be a factor of their accuracy I dont know but it works well enough.
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