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November 14th, 2017, 08:12 PM
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Re: APC Development and related topics.
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December 13th, 2017, 04:20 AM
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Re: APC Development and related topics.
Well they're here! Well really not so much here as much as over there-Germany to be more precise. The 2nd Cav. just received it's first new " DRAGOON" STRYKER w? 30mm. End user field tests are to start in Apr. 2018. If all goes well, the rest will arrive somewhere between ~Jul. 2018 into early 2019. Still can't confirm ATGW system as of now and of course the picture has the turret covered  .
Anyway...
https://www.armyrecognition.com/dece..._regiment.html
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December 14th, 2017, 04:30 AM
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Re: APC Development and related topics.
Finland to order a test batch of MISU class MRAP vehicles for evaluation:
http://www.defmin.fi/ajankohtaista/tiedotteet?9_m=8998
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The Finnish Defense Forces to order domestic armored MISU all terrain vehicles.
Minister of Defense Jussi Niinistö has accepted the proposal by the Finnish Defense Forces Logistics Institute to order Protolab Oy MISU all terrain vehicles, with protection against mines, shrapnel and bullets, for trial use.
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The test kit consists of four PMPV 6X6 vehicles, which will be tested by the Finnish Defense Forces in field conditions in 2018-2020. The acquisition will provide information on the performance and availability of the vehicle for the future needs of the Defense Forces.
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Vehicle information (from manufacturer)
Capacity: 2 + 10 men
Top speed: 110 km/h (~ 70mph)
Weight: 16 tn (metric)
Carry: 10 tn (metric)
Swimming: yes, even on most armored versions (level ?)
Imaging: TI (front)
Armor: Exote (composite material, http://www.protolab.fi/index_tiedost..._Ballistic.htm)
https://www.armyrecognition.com/finl..._12611154.html
http://www.reservilainen.fi/uutiset/...nssariajoneuvo
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January 5th, 2018, 04:13 AM
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Re: APC Development and related topics.
To say I've been following it's development for awhile would be an understatement. This program for the USA, USMC and CADF has finally reached it's apex now that the USMC has begun fielding their version. I personally would recommend a JAN 2018 FOC+ date allowing for unit integration and crew certification training.
So for my Marine friend I don't have the time to pursue this further (We have something of a " BIG" event over a couple of weeks that'll soon garner most of my attention at work.) everything has already been posted, this might already be in the game only requiring a date change (Don't know.) but I know this is the final piece of the puzzle.
For CADF looks like yours is closer to the USA version. And they did not convert all of them to APC's back in 2007.
The ref. covers all of the above. Again this from DID which means further info/links are in the highlighted words or phrases of the articles with refs. listed at the bottom.
So " get hot" my indubitable MARINE, the USMC needs them as noted above.  You'd almost think I liked the CORPS, that thought scares the crap out of me!?!
https://www.defenseindustrydaily.com...killers-07373/
I on the other hand need some sleep.
Regards,
Pat

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January 6th, 2018, 05:11 PM
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Re: APC Development and related topics.
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Looks like I need to revise the dates on my LAV-ATA2 (currently 2015).
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January 7th, 2018, 04:04 AM
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Re: APC Development and related topics.
I didn't want this to get lost from the ref. as well, that beyond dates issues as I see it turned out, that the USMC will also be using the same FCS and ATGM as the USA. Might already again be addressed, so please bear with me as I'm almost running on fumes now, from the ref. as I last posted..."Second, the M220A3 TOW system is being replaced by the M41 SABER", (Mobile ITAS TOW) which is much more capable and effective. TI/GSR 60.
Concerning CADF STRYKER TUA the military bought the "Bunker Buster" TOW for them back in late 2007/early 2008. This off one of the links from the same ref. now reposted below.
https://www.defenseindustrydaily.com...killers-07373/
Wanted to emphasize these points in my last but, just spaced them out-sorry for inconvenience, just now taking the long road around to avoid any rework on these units down the road. It was enough to present them the first time as old info was interspersed with these being tested with a different ATGM program that fell through as I remember which lead to also deleting a couple of units.
Anyway my weekend is here and our bed is calling to me. Good something where ever you are.
Regards,
Pat

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