Error in Abn mtr unit?

[Weasel]

Originally Posted by Wdll

What game was that? The only recent SSI game with ships that I can think of (Just woke up) is Fighting Steel, and that was not boring.

Yes FS, I found it boring beyond belief. Then again I find all those FPS games very boring too, but people seem to love them...beats me.

[Wdll]

Originally Posted by Weasel

Yes FS, I found it boring beyond belief. Then again I find all those FPS games very boring too, but people seem to love them...beats me.

fighting Steel is not fps, but ok.

[Weasel]

Originally Posted by Wdll

fighting Steel is not fps, but ok.

I know FS is not a FPS, I was saying that I found it boring whereas you enjoy it; just like so many like Call of Duty which I find boring, to each his own eh. I enjoy War in the East even though, complexity wise and horrible manual wise, it makes SP look like a little kid game and many people find it much too complex, as I did for quite a bit. But after playing 200 turns and crushing Germany in Sept 1944 I like it very much. Cheers.

[DRG]

Originally Posted by Weasel

***BTW - that mortar that won't load is a DF mortar***

No it is not.

If it shows a mortar Icon it's a "gun" if it shows just the "crew" as infantry it's a DF.

The formation it is in is Para Pl DW[A].....DW indicated it's set up as " detached weapons"...ie a formation that has it support weapons outside the platoon instead of integrated into it.

[Weasel]

Originally Posted by DRG

No it is not.

If it shows a mortar Icon it's a "gun" if it shows just the "crew" as infantry it's a DF.

The formation it is in is Para Pl DW[A].....DW indicated it's set up as " detached weapons"...ie a formation that has it support weapons outside the platoon instead of integrated into it.

When opening the unit and looking at the details it is listed as: 60mm DF mortar and indeed only fires direct, cannot be called in by a FOO. The DF stands for direct fire doesn't it? If there are two classes of direct fire (gun class vs crew class) only then they will have to be distinguished somehow.

Thanks for the explanation about carrying, I did know that already but very helpful to anyone else who may be following this thread.

[DRG]

Originally Posted by Weasel

When opening the unit and looking at the details it is listed as: 60mm DF mortar and indeed only fires direct, cannot be called in by a FOO. The DF stands for direct fire doesn't it? If there are two classes of direct fire (gun class vs crew class) only then they will have to be distinguished somehow.

Thanks for the explanation about carrying, I did know that already but very helpful to anyone else who may be following this thread.

This OOB was reworked some years ago with the DW formations added. This is the first complaint....maybe your the first one to use it.....IDK but right now I can see one of two things has happened--- he has either assigned the wrong weapon to that unit OR the wrong unitclass .

So.......sometime before the next release I will dust off my crystal ball and try to figure out what the intent was and what the error is..... all I did was see the mortar Icon and that's the sign it's an indirect class but something's been mixed up and I will sort out what it is

[DRG]

Originally Posted by Weasel

When opening the unit and looking at the details it is listed as: 60mm DF mortar and indeed only fires direct, cannot be called in by a FOO. The DF stands for direct fire doesn't it? If there are two classes of direct fire (gun class vs crew class) only then they will have to be distinguished somehow.

Thanks for the explanation about carrying, I did know that already but very helpful to anyone else who may be following this thread.

There were a couple of issues that multiplied their impact.....a wrong weapon assigned to one set of units and the wrong unit assigned to one formation...simple enough on reading but a ridiculous amount of time was spent sorting it out.......but it is now sorted out

[Weasel]

I did some searching, and although they are called "PARA" they were actually loaded onto gliders and would come in after the para infantry secured the DZ. They were airborne though and delivered via air, just not parachute airborne.

[DRG]

Originally Posted by Weasel

I did some searching, and although they are called "PARA" they were actually loaded onto gliders and would come in after the para infantry secured the DZ. They were airborne though and delivered via air, just not parachute airborne.

What unit are you referring to?

[Weasel]

Playing my turn and the 81mm DF can only move 1 hex at a time cross country, speed 3. The 50cal HMG can move 2 hexes cross country (speed 4). The 81 mortar, complete, weighs 89 pounds whereas the M2 browning 50cal complete weighs 128 pounds. Each has 4 men per tube/mg so that isn't a difference.

Yeah I know, you are rolling your eyes and going "oh brother" but the 81 should have the same speed as the 50% heavier MG.

Sorry