Question: Re-Crew Abandoned Vehicles and Weapons

[DRG]

Another use for the "save as scenario" would be to eliminate the fireworks shows that some scenarios have where you go make a coffee and have lunch while the "pre-game show" bombardment and airstrikes go in. ( an exaggeration but there are a few that do go on and on ) Run them then save as scenario and that can be the start of the game and everyone gets the same starting point

[Suhiir]

Originally Posted by DRG

Another use for the "save as scenario" would be to eliminate the fireworks shows that some scenarios have where you go make a coffee and have lunch while the "pre-game show" bombardment and airstrikes go in. ( an exaggeration but there are a few that do go on and on ) Run them then save as scenario and that can be the start of the game and everyone gets the same starting point

Good idea, think I'll do this with that "Vital Airfield" scenario. I KNOW it has an awfully long "pre-game show".

[DRG]

Maybe some people like that.....IDK, I just know I find it tedious but I'm usually running something like that as a test for some reason and it's annoying to get the pre-game show running on and on..... BUT, I may be in the minority.....others may enjoy the show..

[Mobhack]

The AI does rejoin crews - have seen it in battles. It should do also in a scenario when the designer has split things. But it may take its own sweet time about it especially if the crew is pinned etc.

[Mobhack]

Just whipped up a test scenario, dropping sheridans, 105mm howitzers, 81mm mortar teams from Hercules under AI control.

Crew and kit dropped separately on the predetermined LZs. The AI then moved the crews to marry up with the kit, bar one crew which had suffered damage and was pinned, that moved a turn or 2 later.


I then unloaded the planes and spread the crews about then ran the scenario under AI control again. The crews marched to join their weapons and vehicles, as expected.


A simple test scenario, took 5 minutes to lash up. A quick 5 or 10 minutes playing with a test scenario often answers the question.

[shahadi]

Originally Posted by Mobhack

Just whipped up a test scenario, dropping sheridans, 105mm howitzers, 81mm mortar teams from Hercules under AI control.

Crew and kit dropped separately on the predetermined LZs. The AI then moved the crews to marry up with the kit, bar one crew which had suffered damage and was pinned, that moved a turn or 2 later.


I then unloaded the planes and spread the crews about then ran the scenario under AI control again. The crews marched to join their weapons and vehicles, as expected.


A simple test scenario, took 5 minutes to lash up. A quick 5 or 10 minutes playing with a test scenario often answers the question.

I whipped up a similar tests using 4x BMD-3s and 4x AN-12 air transports. My results were as MobHack discovered. So, what we have is a solution under AI control using the "save as scenario" hack.

But, it gets a lot better, I also unloaded the transports in deploy, deleted them, and placed the crews about their vehicles.

It took three turns for the AI to rejoin the crews.

This latter solution is simple: just load the vehicles and weapons onto transports, unload the transports, place the crew and vehicles on the map where desired, delete the transports.

[scorpio_rocks]

Will Russian vehicles never have the ability to be paradropped with the crews onboard as, I believe, is their current standard practice?

[Mobhack]

Originally Posted by scorpio_rocks

Will Russian vehicles never have the ability to be paradropped with the crews onboard as, I believe, is their current standard practice?

No. air dropped vehicles and their crew drop separately. That stops the old way where vehicles or guns were immediately available to drive off. The crews having to find and join up takes time, which is more realistic.