China OOB21 and OOB14 v.11

Pibwl · #7 August 2nd, 2018, 06:53 PM

Communist China OOB14:

02 T-26 M.33 - photo is M.39, could be Chinese 4123 or Soviet 27857

05 Vickers 6E - Chinese camo photo is 2385 (like Nationalist)

56 Colt HMGs - photo is Vickers, correct is eg. 674

183 AT-Rifle (PTRD) - no deliveries of Soviet equipment before 1945 at least

285 T-26a - twin turret T-26s weren't exported and aren't known to be used by China (already removed from nationalist OOB)

288 Vickers 6-Ton - twin-turret Vickers wasn't used in China (already removed from nationalist OOB)

289 MHarrington 4TA - not used in China, especially by communists (see earlier post).

BTW: it may be doubtful, if the communists captured all kinds of nationalist tanks, before 1944-45 at least - but I have no sources...

It is also doubtful if L3 tankettes (282-286) survived until 1946 - on the other hand 290 Type 95 Ha-Go, 292 Type 97 Chi-Ha surely should be used until 12/46.

There also should be added Type 97kai Chi-Ha - unit 299 from Nationalist OOB - it was surely used.

There is a bit more known on aircraft, from Encyclopedia of Aircraft and Aviation in China until 1949. It seems, that the communists had no air forces in fact until 1945!

The first aircraft was one V-65C Corsair named Lei Ning (Lenin), captured in 3/30 and used until 7/32. The second aircraft was Douglas O-2MC named Marx, captured in 4/32. Then apparently there were none for some time.

They could replace 396 and 440 Kwangsi 3 (which wasn't produced).

"What became known as the Air Force of the PLA acquired its first aircraft by capturing Japanese machines and in addition a large number of Japanese aircraft were captured by the Russians in Manchuria and then handed over to the PLA".
There are mentioned: Ki-43 Hayabusa, Ki-44 Shoki, Ki-61 Hien, Ki-84 Hayate fighters (units 401-404), Ki-45 Toryu heavy fighter (lacking), Ki-30 (unit 405) and Ki-51 attack aircraft (lacking), Ki-48 bombers (430).

So, any Soviet aircraft before 1949 is doubtful. Some Japanese ones could have been captured earlier, but there's no specific information.

405 Mitsubishi Ki-30 - picture is Kawasaki Ki-32 (proper is 4166).

That's all for China.