Spanish OOB32 and OOB33 v.11 (2018)

[Pibwl]

Originally Posted by Mobhack

So, if a battery is off-map then 200+ range is a required factor.

I know that That's the problem, if a battery of off-map artillery shouldn't be off-map in reality, for it appears, that it had smaller range (<10km), as in case of Italian basic 100/17 howitzers for instance...


AT guns / Inf howitzers

99 Canon AT 20mm - according to http://www.sbhac.net/Republica/Fuerz...rtCC/ArtCC.htm it was Bofors 20mm, used from 6/37 (now 9/38). Better seems wheeled icon 8020 (although a photo on the quoted page may not be this specific weapon).


100 Canon AT 25mm - no mention on the quoted page, nor http://www.amonio.es/artilleria.htm (especially, that it appears from 1935 - before the war)

On the other hand, quite a number of interesting 37 mm 'Maklen' (McLean) automatic canons were delivered by Russians - photos: http://www.sbhac.net/Republica/Fuerz...rtCC/ArtCC.htm, https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/theo...-gun-t321.html
There are no penetration data (it wasn't basically AT-gun), but with modest 37x137R mm rounds and quite long barrel, it could be 3-4, I guess http://www.amonio.es/canon_37mm_maklen.htm.


101 Canon AT 37mm (Pak 35) - no mention on http://www.sbhac.net/Republica/Fuerz...rtCC/ArtCC.htm. It could have been captured from nationalists, but such cases didn't seem common... This page doesn't mention Republican use either http://www.amonio.es/canon_cc37_pak3536.htm

On the other hand, there should be added 37mm Bofors (from 1938? - http://www.sbhac.net/Republica/Fuerz...rtCC/ArtCC.htm) - eg. Polish unit 400. They were Polish, BTW.


102 Canon AT 37mm (Gochkisa) - obsolete Hotchkiss gun, should have worse penetration (Soviet weapon 12 37mm Hotchkiss has sabot pen. 3 at 4 hexes - the same as L21 Puteaux, but it had longer barrel, so maybe range should be better? Japanese 37mm Sogekiho has range 10)
Better icon is 8032 - current is too modern
Photo of similar gun is 28003 (drawing: http://www.sbhac.net/Republica/Fuerz...rtCC/ArtCC.htm)
However, according to that page, they could have been not numerous.

103 Canon AT 45mm - a dedicated icon for this weapon is 8022
According to numbers on the quoted page, it was by far most numerous Republican AT gun.

104 Canon AT 47mm - These guns could have been theoretically captured, but there is no mention on http://www.sbhac.net/Republica/Fuerz...rtCC/ArtCC.htm...
Dedicated icon for 47mm Breda is 8029
Picture 19726 is apparently Soviet 45mm (or Pak) - could be 2646

105 Canon 76.2mm AA - precisely, a weapon was obr.31, not obr.38 http://www.amonio.es/canon_aaruso_31.htm

106 Canon Inf 37mm - photo is definitely some heavier gun, should be 28004, like unit 107. Dedicated icon is 8033 or 8032

107 Canon Inf 37mm - icon as above.

The same Spain OOb33 unit 470, 471

108 Canon Inf 37mm - photo is some heavier gun, correct for 37mm Rosenberg is apparently 23524
According to http://www.sbhac.net/Republica/Fuerz...om/ArtAcom.htm probably a handful were delivered in autumn 1937 (now 11/36). It should rather be class 154 Infantry Howitzer, than AT-gun, with its lousy characteristics.

109,110 Canon Inf 40mm - there is no proper icon to show its weird look, but 2106 seems best
Sabot penetration 7 seems impossible - the same as excellent 2pdr gun with 40×304 mm ammunition, while Arellano had 40×96 mm... http://www.amonio.es/canon_arellano.htm
Commissioned in 1933, developed a few years back.

The same Spain OOB33 unit 472, 473