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Old October 12th, 2018, 07:47 PM

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Default Re: Italy OOB 34 corrections/suggestions (v.11) 2018

I've found only two photos of RSI Reggiane 2005 - attached. It was rather not numerous.

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111,749 SM75 Marsupiale - according to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Savoia-Marchetti_SM.75 its military version became SM.82, and only after 6/1940 civilian SM.75 were also used as transport aircraft (apparently pure transport, not for paratroops - unlike Hungarian ones). The same on Russian page http://www.airwar.ru/enc/cww2/sm75.html.
Besides, 749 should start at 9/43
Icon 486 of SM.82 is more appropriate (now it has icon of smaller SM.79 Sparviero)
Same for 111 RSI OOB
111 SM75 Marsupiale - it's better to replace it with SM.81, which, according to "Camouflage and Markings of the Aeronautica Nationale Repubblicana 1943-1945" book, was typical RSI transport aircraft. The icon 326 could stay then. They carried German crosses - photos attached.

In Italian OOb 111 SM75 Marsupiale could be replaced with SM.81 as well - used as transport planes from late 1940 according to Italian Wikipedia. Photo 16144.

BTW: better icon for Italy 218 S81 Pipistrello bomber is 326 (from SM.79) as well, than current 486 from more modern SM.82 (upper view https://static.rcgroups.net/forums/a...20-%20view.jpg)

According to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Savoia-Marchetti_SM.81 it could also carry 4x500 kg bombs.
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Old October 15th, 2018, 06:18 PM

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Default Re: Italy OOB 34 corrections/suggestions (v.11) 2018

Misc:
Mostly they are very minor things, but since I had written them down before, I'll just finish with this OOB (unlike 3 years ago, I haven't examined all the OOB this time, only artillery and some things that caught my eye during picture work...)


58 SPA 65L17 - Autocannone 65/17 were typically used on captured Morris CS8 chassis, not SPA (even described on Wikipedia as standard equipment http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/65/17_su_Morris_CS8 ).
According to "Italian Truck Mounted Artillery In Action", in service from 9/41 [now 6/41 - would need change in formations 429, 430].
Ammo carried on a vehicle was 36 according to that book (AT and HE, probably by half, because such was proportion on an additional ammo truck, carrying 250 rounds).

It can also be doubled as class 52 SP-AT vehicle.

62 AS-37 Protetto,
63 2TL-37 Protetto

- according to "Italian Armoured vehicles of WWII" Carro Protetto AS 37 was derived from the TL 37 tractor, so it is the same vehicle. TL-37 itself wasn't armoured. However, Italian Wikipedia calls it Autoprotetto S37 http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiat-SPA_S37 , what looks quite reliable, because AS-37 was a name of light truck (also derived from TL37) http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiat-SPA_AS37 (unit 421)
The same http://www.italie1935-45.com/regio-e...oprotetto-s-37 (suggested names are "Autoprotetto 37"or "AutoprotettoS37")

MG was a standard weapon, some had portable(?) flamethrower.
According to the book, it entered production in 1941 - Wikipedia suggests 1942, and the quoted page says, that only 6 were made by 1/42.
Capacity was 7 + 2 crew (according to Wikipedia, 8+1). Armour was 8mm all around.
Both differ in size (3 seems better - photo: https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiat-S...equipaggio.jpg).

The same as for production and size for 484 TL-37 AS-20 (I couldn't find info that such variant with 20 mm gun ever existed).

68 SPA 35 Dovunque
- it was used until 1946 at least [now 12/45]
Speed was 60 km/h [now 18]
https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/SPA_Dovunque_35

399 SPA 41 Dovunque - it entered production in 1943 https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/SPA_Dovunque_41 [now 41].
Icon is wrong for this truck, for it had a long nose - best seems 606.
It should be AT-wheel - 6x6 drive.

420 Fiat 508M [scout veh.] - carry capability should be max 4 (it carries 014 Esploratori) (which is twice as much for this vehicle anyway - it was a nonsense military spider for 1+2 persons http://www.italie1935-45.com/regio-e...at-508-balilla)

A Scout Vehicle might also be available as a separate unit (now it is only in a company)

423 Fiat 508CM [scout veh.] - crew should be rather 1 [3] and carry 104 [102] (now these are specs of FO variant)
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