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February 6th, 2019, 05:46 PM
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Re: Jets & Planes but no UAV's here.
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March 19th, 2019, 01:43 AM
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Re: Jets & Planes but no UAV's here.
I'm not going to spend much time about the attached Ref. except as it stands it speaks volumes of it's own. It makes me wonder if the USAF didn't run those capability tests in secret between the A-10/F-15SE & F-35A. I'm sure they didn't, but some of you might remember from a couple of years ago, I posted many articles on the planned " competition" between those jets and I'm still waiting for it to happen. Also nothing more has been said about the A-10 except they're still being modernized. Judge for yourself, but to me, the writings on the wall.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/comp...Shv?li=BBnb7Kz
https://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/
(This pretty much covers most of the above. The video at bottom was pretty good to in how the F-15FX will compliment the F-22. Also note the propulsion testing for all F-35's is running through DEC 2023 ahead of FOC per the contract just signed.)
https://www.airforce-technology.com/...ries-airforce/
(A "BIG" hit in the first article.)
Almost makes me think I own a crystal ball, just maybe, I do!?!
Have a good something! Back to the grind later today!?!
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March 19th, 2019, 08:04 PM
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Re: Jets & Planes but no UAV's here.
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Originally Posted by FASTBOAT TOUGH
I'm not going to spend much time about the attached
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We've long known top USAF commanders have very little interest in anything that's not an air superiority fighter or long range bomber. Ground support exists primarily because they don't want the US Army having fixed wing aircraft. And let's not even get into their attempts to bring naval aviation under their control. Transport mostly because they need to move parts, tools, and bombs; moving troops and combat equipment is something they do if they're not doing something more important ... like moving a USAF generals golf clubs.
As a replacement for a medium bomber, i.e. the Tornado or Aardvark, the F-35 is a poor choice. It's also a poor replacement for an air superiority fighter, the F-15. It's a tactical ground support aircraft, and at that job it excels.
YES, I have a chip on my shoulder concerning the USAF. They keep telling everyone that will listen they'll bomb the opposition into submission, and it never, ever, works. That's not to say they don't fulfill a valuable role, but in most cases it's one they're forced to fill not one they want to (on an institutional level).
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March 20th, 2019, 02:03 AM
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Re: Jets & Planes but no UAV's here.
I missed the competition? Those results don't surprise me that's why my post at the top of the page is relevant talking about the Harrier and A-10.
Poland honestly would be much better off buying the Gripen NG and keep pushing to join Germany and France in building the "EuroLeo". The 4th GEN +++ Gripen NG is just as capable as the borderline 5th GEN F-35, much cheaper to buy, operate and maintain and any road would do for a runway.
Poland needs quality and numbers in jets and tanks to hold back an aggressive resurgent Russia for deterrence and not a handful of Squadrons or less of F-35 fighters. Canada this goes for you to, you both need to get your GRIPEN!?!
https://www.airforce-technology.com/...n-fighter-jet/
(Para 2. makes my point.)
https://gripen4canada.blogspot.com/p...pable-and.html
(I can find more like this, a very easy reading comparison between the two. The GRIPEN NG is even faster then the F-35.)
USAF better barracks, tents with AC, prettier bases and supply airlines with pilots. Big Deal!!
On Saturdays we woke up with a drill and had a Field Day, Sliders (Cheese optional.) for lunch, Pizza for mid-rats and on Sundays Prime Rib or Steak and Shrimp all at hundreds of feet beneath the Ocean!! The USAF ain't got nothing on us!! Can't do that flying a Whoopi-d-do jet!  :
Anyway my USMC buddy is derrnnn right!?!
Well that felt good!
Regards,
Pat
As this ended up on the top of the page, Post #483 of the previous page is what I was referring to.
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