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				October 8th, 2019, 12:42 PM
			
			
			
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				 Re: winSPMBT V13 ( 2019 ) Upgrade 
 And by Fasttough's latest info:
 Unit# 931 F/A-18F Hornet* - Dates 1/100-9/119
 Unit# 932 F/A-18E Hornet* - Dates 1/100-9/119
 
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				October 9th, 2019, 02:27 AM
			
			
			
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 With all due respect to the both of you, that is not what I said or suggested in my last post concerning the HORNETS  in Post 509 !!
 
From that Post my input ... 
"But I just checked my papers and came across this significant  article concerning the F/A-18 HORNET specifically the A-D series versions ." 
 
"The F/A-18 E/F  and F/A-18G  are still operational and will be for at least 10 or more years."
 
From DID ... 
"The US Navy has retired its fleet of Boeing F/A-18A-D Hornet  combat aircraft from active service."
 
For perspective and as I'm tracking this closely, I give you the following...
https://www.ainonline.com/aviation-n...fighter-trials 
You will note that Boeing is bringing to the competition the F/A-18E/F .
 
The winner will replace the F-5  and F/A-18C/D  (Which was the latest type the USN was flying of the "Classic (Types A-D.) " HORNET  until the 2 Oct Retirement.) 
 
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				October 9th, 2019, 01:12 PM
			
			
			
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				October 9th, 2019, 02:19 PM
			
			
			
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 My mistake.Thought they'd accelerated the change to the F-35 for some reason and gotten rid of the F/A-18s altogether.  Which frankly doesn't make a lot of sense because as a "fighter" the F-35 sorta sucks.
 
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				October 9th, 2019, 05:46 PM
			
			
			
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 As we all keep saying the F-35 is not an air superiority fighter...... |  
	
		
	
	
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				October 9th, 2019, 11:52 PM
			
			
			
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 If I may recommend for further reading "A Maverick At War SEAHARRIER OVER THE FALKLANDS " by Commander "Sharkey " Ward DSC, AFC, RN.
 
If you know anything about the HARRIER  he's considered the "father" (Actually referred to as "Mr. Sea Harrier ".) of them and became one of their biggest supporters even up to and after Britain sold all those wonderfully expensively upgraded GR.8/9 HARRIERS  (And others.) the USMC would get for a "fire sell " and a loss financially to the British. 
 
Anyway, they were severely out numbered and faced some excellent aircraft of the time Mirage III/V DAGGERS  (Being his second of three kills.), Super ETENDARDS  and those A4 SKYHAWKS  that played havoc with the "fleet".
 
An excellent book on the air war also covering the land war for perspective. RN intrigue (Inter service rivalries.) and like all good wars, misallocation of resources so some can say (Bomber Command.), in were in it as well. Yes they decided to fly a VULCAN  7000 miles RT (Ascension Island.) requiring fuel support from 10 tankers @ 137,000 gallons for that one bomber. The fuel used could've supported 260 Sea Harrier missions over Port Stanley. In three missions one bomb clipped the runway and on the second mission someone forgot to fuse the bombs on all 21 of them dropped. Very embarrassing!?!    
Anyway my Marine buddy, good point!!    
Well CINCLANTHOME will make me pay for this when she gets me up in a few hours before we hit the road. Not a coffee drinker but, I might need a "Cup of Joe " before we leave!?!
 
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 Unit# 585 F-35B Ltng II - Weapon#2 178 HE=10, Weapon#3 178 HE=9, Weapon#4 178 HE=9Unit# 931 F/A-18F Hornet* - Crew 2, Dates 3/112-12/125, Weapon#2 178 HE=9, Weapon#3 209 HE=4, Weapon#4 199 HE=2
 Unit# 932 F/A-18E Hornet* - Weapon#1 214 HE=2 AP=0, Weapon#2 214 HE=2, Weapon#3 0 HE=0, Weapon#4 0 HE=0
 Unit# 933 F/A-18E Hornet* - Crew 1, Dates 1/110-12/125, Weapon#2 186 HE=10, Weapon#3 186 HE=9, Weapon#4 186 HE=9
 
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 Unit# 028 Jeep TOW - Dates 7/70-12/80Unit# 405 Jeep TOW - NEW UNIT (Copy of Unit# 028) Dates 1/82-12/83, Vision 20, Weapon#1 158
 
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