new discovery's --MODS

DRG · #1 June 14th, 2020, 01:07 PM

I've been interested in WW2 era history and equipment, particularly aircraft, armoured vehicles and weapons for well over 5 decades so when I discover something totally new it's a surprise.

Up until two days ago, I had not known about the Kharkiv R-10 ( sometimes known as the Kharkiv KhAI-5 and sometimes as the Neman R-10). Usually, if something like this happens it's because they were produced on a very limited basis but there were around 500 R-10's built and that is not a trifling number. Their first combat use was at Khalkhin Go and they were used to at least the end of 1943.

They are in the game now as fighter bombers and recce aircraft and in game terms for 1939 are the most modern UC 44 aircraft in the Russian OOB.

Just saying because this long after WW2 it's remarkable to find something "new"

Karagin · #2 June 14th, 2020, 09:06 PM

Very cool. A lot interesting things were built, tried, and forgotten before and during World War 2.

DRG · #3 June 14th, 2020, 10:43 PM

And this.... a Grigorovich IP-1 only 90 made and only used for 4 years but 90 is a respectable number and was used from 1936-1940

When looked at from top down it has many similarities to the Mitsubishi A5M including wingspan.

I like building aircraft......it's why there are too many in the game

Karagin · #4 June 15th, 2020, 11:30 AM

We are going to need more unit slots at this rate.

DRG · #5 June 15th, 2020, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Karagin

We are going to need more unit slots at this rate.

Nope. There are plenty of slots available in all OOB's but one ( German )and increased unit slots is NEVER ( never, never.... ) going to happen and neither is hiving the SS units into their own OOB.. "not gonna happen".

Increasing the number of slots at this stage would break more things than I could count and right now ( this IS year 22 we've been doing this )... we have no enthusiasm left to even try to consider a way to make it work because we bounced all the options around a decade ago and it all came back "not gonna happen". The work involved is way more than the benefits

Right now there is some German overflow in the Blue OOB and anyone who is curious or wants those units can access them as captured.

As for more new aircraft... those last two may very well be the last two but who knows I was surprised to find them I might be surprised again but I cannot really see that happening.

I have already added 100 mostly upgraded revisions to Icons in WW2 but some are new.

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(456,140): 263 British Beaufighter 22 263 REVISED winSPWW2 v11+REVISED winSPWW2 v14
(457,140): 264 British Blenheim 23 264 REVISED winSPWW2 v11+REVISED winSPWW2 v14
(459,117): 266 FINN Blenheim 25 266 REVISED winSPWW2 v14
(512,75): 427 Sukhoi Su-2 36 427 *****REVISED WinSPWW2 v14
(524,71): 357 LaGG.1-3 6 357 ******REV WinSPWW2 v14
(526,73): 359 A-36 Apache 8 359 ******REV WinSPWW2 v14
(527,68): 360 Yak-9 9 360 ******REV WinSPWW2 v14
(528,70): 361 La-5FN 10 361 ******REV WinSPWW2 v14
(556,108): 419 Beaufighter ( PTO ) 38 419 *******Revised WinSPWW2V12******REV WinSPWW2 v14
(595,124): 480 Letov S 328 (Czech) 2 480 ***** REVISED winSPWW2 v14
(599,123): 484 JU-86 ( Hungarian ) 6 484 ***REVISED winSPWW2 v14
(613,114): 498 Commonwealth CA-1 Wirraway ( ANZAC) 20 498 ***REVISED winSPWW2 v14
(615,110): 500 Commonwealth CA-12 Boomerang ( ANZAC) 22 500 ***REVISED winSPWW2 v14
(616,124): 501 Fokker D.XXI ( Finn ) 23 501 ***REVISED winSPWW2 v14
(617,124): 502 Fokker D.XXI (Dutch ) 24 502 ***REVISED winSPWW2 v14
(619,124): 504 Breda Ba.27 ( China ) 26 504 ***REVISED winSPWW2 v14
(622,124): 507 Bloch MB 152 ( France ) 29 507 ***REVISED winSPWW2 v14
(623,122): 508 Bloch MB 152 ( Romania ) 30 508 ***REVISED winSPWW2 v14
(626,124): 511 Martin B10 USA 33 511 ***REVISED winSPWW2 v14
(627,124): 512 Martin B10 DUTCH 34 512 ***REVISED winSPWW2 v14
(628,124): 513 Martin B10 China 35 513 ***REVISED winSPWW2 v14
(629,129): 920 ROM-Blenheim1 36 920 NEW-V5 ***REVISED winSPWW2 v14
(655,130): 946 NSP-Capronchino-310 62 946 NEW-V5 ***REVISED winSPWW2 v14
(656,130): 947 NSP-Caproni-Ca-133 63 947 NEW-V5 ***REVISED winSPWW2 v14
(657,130): 948 NSP-Caproni-Ca-135 64 948 NEW-V5 ***REVISED winSPWW2 v14
(714,123): 533 JU-86 ( SWEDE ) 19 533 ***REVISED winSPWW2 v14
(718,135): 537 CR.42 Falco SWEDE 23 537 *******REVISED winSPWW2 v14
(737,131): 864 NTH-Fokker DXXI-pre war 42 864 NEW-V5 ***** REVISED winSPWW2 v14
(739,128): 866 NTH-Fokker T.V bomber [T.5] 44 866 NEW-V5 ***** REVISED winSPWW2 v14
(740,124): 867 NTH-Fokker T.V bomber [T.5]-prewar 45 867 NEW-V5 ***** REVISED winSPWW2 v14
(753,168): 880 GRK-Blenheim_MkIV 58 880 NEW-V5 ****** REVISED winSPWW2 v11*****REVISED winSPWW2 v14
(754,130): 881 GRK-Bloch_MB_152 59 881 NEW-V5 ***REVISED winSPWW2 v14
(777,81): 904 Yugo-109 82 904 NEW-V5 *****REVISED winSPWW2 v14
(778,132): 905 Yugo-Blenheim1 83 905 NEW-V5 *****REVISED winSPWW2 v14
(780,132): 907 Yugo-caproni310 85 907 NEW-V5 *****REVISED winSPWW2 v14
(891,130): 633 SLOVAK Letov 4 633 NEW-V4 **** Revised winSPWW2 v14
(897,130): 639 CZECH LA-5 10 639 NEW-V4 **** Revised winSPWW2 v14
(915,123): 657 Caproni Ca.310 Norway 28 657 NEW-V4 * Revised winSPWW2 v14
(916,127): 658 Italian Caproni Ca.310 29 658 NEW-V4 * Revised winSPWW2 v14
(936,130): 808 Thai Martin 139W 49 808 NEW-V5 **** Revised winSPWW2 v14
(954,129): 826 BUL Letov 328 67 826 NEW-V5 **** Revised winSPWW2 v14
(955,127): 827 BUL Letov 328-44 68 827 NEW-V5 **** Revised winSPWW2 v14
(974,130): 846 CHI-Waco 240A 87 846 NEW-V5 **** REVISED winSPWW2 v14
(975,108): 847 CHI-Curtiss Hawk 68 88 847 NEW-V5 **** NEW winSPWW2 v14
(980,126): 852 PTO-Swordfish 93 852 NEW-V5 * Revised winSPWW2 v14
(983,125): 855 BRT ETO-Swordfish 96 855 NEW-V5 * Revised winSPWW2 v14
(2240,92): {9274, -1}, // 2074 Hungarian Ca 135 ** NEW WinSPWW2 v7 ***REVISED winSPWW2 v14
(2358,102): {9388, -1}, // 2188 Spainish Republic Potez 540 ********** NEW WinSPWW2 V9***REVISED winSPWW2 v14
(2359,97): {9389, -1}, // 2189 French Potez 540 camo ********** NEW WinSPWW2 V9***REVISED winSPWW2 v14
(2360,98): {9390, -1}, // 2190 French Potez 540 green ********** NEW WinSPWW2 V9***REVISED winSPWW2 v14
(2361,95): {9391, -1}, // 2191 Romanian Potez 543 ********** NEW WinSPWW2 V9***REVISED winSPWW2 v14
(4300,85):{11186, 11187}, //4041. KV-85 Summer ******New_WinSPww2v2 ***REVISED winSPWW2 v14
(4301,84):{11188, 11189}, //4042. KV-85 Winter ******New_WinSPww2v2 ***REVISED winSPWW2 v14
(4899,88): {12216, -1}, //4616 Potez 65T- French *******NewWinSPWW2v4 *****Revised WinSPWW2 v14
(8525,104): {18711, -1}, //8111 Free French AF Blenheim **********NEW winSPWW2 V12**********REVISED winSPWW2 V14
(8624,96): {18810, -1}, //8198 I-16 Russia_2 **********NEW winSPWW2 V12**********REVISED winSPWW2 V14
(8668,97): {18854, -1}, //8340 Hurricane RYAF **********NEW winSPWW2 V12**********REVISED winSPWW2 V14
(8735,99): {18920, -1}, //8220 IL-10 Shturmovík Green/Black ******NEW winSPWW2 V12--Corrected winSPWW2 V14
(8939,67): {19120, -1}, //8502 Sukhoi Su-2 Winter *******REV WinSPWW2 V14
(8955,72): {19136, -1}, //8518 Italian Ba-88 Lince Green *****New WinSPWW2 V14
(8956,73): {19137, -1}, //8519 Italian Ba-88 Lince Desert *****New WinSPWW2 V14
(8957,73): {19138, -1}, //8520 British Beaufighter Desert *****New WinSPWW2 V14
(8958,68): {19139, -1}, //8521 USA Beaufighter Green *****New WinSPWW2 V14
(8959,67): {19140, -1}, //8522 USA Beaufighter Camo *****New WinSPWW2 V14
(8960,69): {19141, -1}, //8523 USA Beaufighter Desert *****New WinSPWW2 V14
(8961,70): {19142, -1}, //8524 Finland Blenheim Winter *****New WinSPWW2 V14
(8962,65): {19143, -1}, //8525 PTO Blenheim Mk.I *****New WinSPWW2 V14
(8963,73): {19144, -1}, //8526 British Blenheim Mk.IV Camo *****New WinSPWW2 V14
(8964,75): {19145, -1}, //8527 British Blenheim Mk.IV Desert *****New WinSPWW2 V14
(8965,59): {19146, -1}, //8528 RSI Ca-310 *****New WinSPWW2 V14
(8966,64): {19147, -1}, //8529 Croatian Ca-311m *****New WinSPWW2 V14
(8967,66): {19148, -1}, //8530 Swede Ca-313 *****New WinSPWW2 V14
(8968,60): {19149, -1}, //357 Yugo Me-109g *****New WinSPWW2 V14
(8969,72): {19150, -1}, //8532 Soviet LAGG-1-3 green camo *****New WinSPWW2 V14
(8970,69): {19151, -1}, //8533 Soviet LAGG-1-3 camo 2 *****New WinSPWW2 V14
(8971,69): {19152, -1}, //8534 Soviet LAGG-1-3 winter *****New WinSPWW2 V14
(8972,69): {19153, -1}, //8535 Soviet La-5 Green Camo *****New WinSPWW2 V14
(8973,70): {19154, -1}, //8536 Soviet La-5 3 tone Camo *****New WinSPWW2 V14
(8974,70): {19155, -1}, //8537 Soviet La-5 winter worn *****New WinSPWW2 V14
(8975,66): {19156, -1}, //8538 Soviet La-5 winter *****New WinSPWW2 V14
(8976,67): {19157, -1}, //8539 Soviet Mig-3 Summer *****New WinSPWW2 V14
(8977,67): {19158, -1}, //8540 Soviet Mig-3 Winter *****New WinSPWW2 V14
(8978,72): {19159, -1}, //8541 Soviet Yak Green/Gray camo *****New WinSPWW2 V14
(8979,69): {19160, -1}, //8542 Soviet Yak 3 tone Camo *****New WinSPWW2 V14
(8980,68): {19161, -1}, //8543 Soviet Yak Green Camo *****New WinSPWW2 V14
(8981,71): {19162, -1}, //8544 Soviet Yak 3 tone Camo 2 *****New WinSPWW2 V14
(8982,70): {19163, -1}, //8545 Soviet Yak Green Camo 2 *****New WinSPWW2 V14
(8983,70): {19164, -1}, //8546 Soviet Yak Green Camo 3 *****New WinSPWW2 V14
(8984,65): {19165, -1}, //8547 Soviet Yak Winter *****New WinSPWW2 V14
(8985,72): {19166, -1}, //8548 Ju.86 Germany Pre war camo *****New WinSPWW2 V14
(8986,73): {19167, -1}, //8549 Ju 86Z South Africa -Summer *****New WinSPWW2 V14
(8987,78): {19168, -1}, //8550 Ju 86Z South Africa -East Africa *****New WinSPWW2 V14
(8988,73): {19169, -1}, //8551 Ju.86 Germany Splinter camo *****New WinSPWW2 V14
(8989,65): {19170, -1}, //8552 Letov S 328 Czech *****New WinSPWW2 V14
(8990,68): {19171, -1}, //8553 Letov S 328 Estonian *****New WinSPWW2 V14
(8991,66): {19172, -1}, //8554 Renard R31 Belgium *****New WinSPWW2 V14
(8992,73): {19173, -1}, //8555 Kharkiv KhAI-5 (Neman R-10) *****New WinSPWW2 V14
(8993,79): {19174, -1}, //8556 Kharkiv KhAI-5 (Neman R-10) Winter *****New WinSPWW2 V14
(8994,77): {19175, -1}, //8557 Kharkiv KhAI-5 (Neman R-10) Camo *****New WinSPWW2 V14
(8995,65): {19176, -1}, //8558 Grigorovich IP-1 *****New WinSPWW2 V14
100 occurrence(s) has been found.

Pibwl · #6 July 6th, 2020, 02:50 PM

I myself also "discovered" R-10 only ten or so years ago, when I was convinced I already knew every Soviet WW2 plane

DRG · #7 July 6th, 2020, 04:13 PM

A couple of other aircraft I have upgraded for next release........

Late-model He-111 and one version of the SM.81 along with an early Spanish 111

Imp · #8 July 6th, 2020, 06:10 PM

Have to say they look really good

DRG · #9 July 6th, 2020, 06:47 PM

Thanks. I'm quite pleased with this series

a few more

Imp · #10 July 7th, 2020, 01:01 AM

Might need to slow the animations just to watch them fly over they are really good