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January 7th, 2021, 01:53 PM
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Re: Help with setup
On T-14 probably no more than 100 tanks by 2023. Likely about the same number of the T-90M however, I would expect most of these tanks to be kept in a strategic reserve. The " backbone" of all Russian armored divisions still rests on the T-72 variants with the T-80 versions at this time just starting to make a reappearance in any numbers as they are receiving some upgrades currently.
Ukraine likely to hold it's T-84 OPLOT-M in reserve to defend the capital but, they will have plenty of the newer T-64BM17 tanks by 2023 that we just entered in the last patch. You should expect the Ukraine force to heavy on the "newer" T-72 and T-80 tank side as well.
They will also have plenty of Javelins as well, we've been expanding their numbers for the last couple of years and this is still continuing with about 200 more for now before your timeline.
NATO has been training their troops now for years with combined exercises as well. These won't be the same troops the Russians encounter during the Crimea incursion.
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January 7th, 2021, 03:30 PM
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They will also have plenty of Javelins as well, we've been expanding their numbers for the last couple of years and this is still continuing with about 200 more for now before your timeline.
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How many Javelins do they have in total roughly? And is anything known about how they are meant to be employed, spread out through the army or concentrated? Some units get priority etc...? |
January 7th, 2021, 08:07 PM
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Re: Help with setup
No limit on points spent? Just on the parameters you specificity?
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January 8th, 2021, 02:14 AM
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Re: Help with setup
Wulfir,
SIPRI reports that in 2018 we shipped them 210 JAVELINs.
In 2019 another 150 were shipped.
In 2020/2021 another roughly 200 more are to be shipped. SIPRI should have 2020 arms transfer data available next month.
https://www.armyrecognition.com/march_2018_global_defense_security_army_news_indus try/us_approves_$47_mn_fms_from_ukraine_for_javelin_at gm_systems.html
https://www.armyrecognition.com/may_...k_missile.html
https://www.armyrecognition.com/octo...o_ukraine.html
https://www.armyrecognition.com/may_...s_in_2020.html
https://www.defenseindustrydaily.com...missile-03440/
(As of this writing, the above is locked for now.)
That I can verify right now, 360 confirmed.
Also as a separate but, related issue, the Ukraine was prohibited initially from using the JAVELIN against Rebel/Russian forces until July 7, 2020.
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zon...ks-defensively
https://nationalinterest.org/blog/bu...t-lines-164359
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January 8th, 2021, 08:49 AM
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Re: Help with setup
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No limit on points spent? Just on the parameters you specificity?
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January 8th, 2021, 10:54 AM
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Re: Help with setup
Cool deal, using this as my basic reference for inspiration.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4th_Guards_Tank_Division
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January 8th, 2021, 10:59 AM
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Re: Help with setup
T-80U's, BMP-2's and BTR-82's (if I can find those).
137th Reconnaissance Battalion
12th Guards Tank Regiment*
13th Guards Tank Regiment*
423rd Motor Rifle Regiment*
275th Self-Propelled Artillery Regiment
538th Guards Anti-Aircraft Missile Regiment
330th Separate Engineering Battalion
* Not sure if I can purchase an entire regiment or not, but would like it to be a presentation of all three regiments in attack mode.
In honor of the 4th Guards "Kantemirovskaya" Tank Division!
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January 8th, 2021, 11:04 AM
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That pages is helpful, showing:
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Main Battle Tanks 320 (T-80U)
IFV 300 (BMP-2)
Self-Propelled Artillery 130 (2S3 Akatsiya & 2S19 Msta)
Multiple Rocket Launchers 12 (BM-21)
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January 8th, 2021, 11:50 AM
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Re: Help with setup
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That was my source too. It's where I read that the division was to move from T-80s directly to T-14s, but from what I can understand that seems less likely now that the whole division will be fielding T-14s... |
January 8th, 2021, 12:05 PM
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Okay I have just finished purchasing the 4th Guards Tank Division. Well, almost the whole division. I made it tank heavy.
Do you wish for me to keep the purchases secret? (I can email you the details and the scenario as well) or would you rather have it posted here public?
Going to deploy and set way points.
Very mean and tough looking bunch of Guards units.
Question, since they are guards can I adjust their morale (and or experience) up say 10% or so or would you rather have it at the default?
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