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				 Re: SP and SPAA Developments 
 Well after my Post #209  POTUS changed his mind two days later and I started watching to see what would happen. I got my answer about thirty minutes ago The Ukraine has NOW  a battery (4) of HIMARS  with the extended range 70km rockets . This was part of our new package approved this week.
 
I'm thinking this was a brilliant "sleight of hand " of disinformation against Russia for which those systems would cross a "red line " with them.
https://www.armyrecognition.com/defe..._vehicles.html 
The following reports what's in the current package and provides a full update  as to what we've sent to the Ukraine.
https://www.armyrecognition.com/defe...r_ukraine.html 
And also, as I offered in the post referenced at top, and this literally just came up, we've given NORWAY  permission at some earlier point in time to send the Ukraine their M109A3GN improved SPA systems .  Refer back to Para 2 , they're also in country on the front.
https://www.armyrecognition.com/defe...nian_army.html 
They're there and in operation, don't have time to break this down more-I gotta go to work!!! 
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				June 3rd, 2022, 02:18 PM
			
			
			
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				 Re: SP and SPAA Developments 
 ......and the unit I took out is now back in......... |  
	
		
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				June 3rd, 2022, 11:17 PM
			
			
			
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				 Re: SP and SPAA Developments 
 Imagine that!?!    
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				 Re: SP and SPAA Developments 
 https://www.businessinsider.com/uk-c...sia-war-2022-6
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		| The UK will send guided rocket systems to Ukraine that can hit targets 50 miles away. In addition to the M270 launchers, the UK will also send M31A1 munitions.
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				 Re: SP and SPAA Developments 
 Here video clip with AHS Krab  on Ukrainian front-line service.
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				 Re: SP and SPAA Developments 
 Video clip of the work of the Russian MSTAhttps://youtu.be/EeRe9zxyn_U 
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				 Re: SP and SPAA Developments 
 Just a little something from a place called the Salisbury Plain.https://www.msn.com/en-us/video/news...ategory=foryou 
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				 Re: SP and SPAA Developments 
 https://en.defence-ua.com/industries...eeks-3321.html
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		| "Ukraine’s Military Get German Howitzers, MLRS in Coming Weeks' 
 German Ambassador to Ukraine Anka Feldhusen stated that Germany will send new howitzers to Ukraine in the coming weeks.
 
 155 mm Panzerhaubitze 2000 self-propelled howitzer In addition to howitzers, the Armed Forces of Ukraine will receive HIMARS systems, which are supplied together with Britain and the United States.
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				 Re: SP and SPAA Developments 
 Looks like the first M270 MLRS  arrived in in the Ukraine on the July 15th  these should be the UK versions  which are slightly more advanced than ours as they've been upgraded. I suggest the UK  models are there as they were the first to get approval from the U.S.  to send them there. Also, as I've posted a couple of weeks back, we found out taha the training has been going on a lot earlier then was reported. 
I'm sure was to maintain a level of operational security and deception. https://www.armyrecognition.com/defe...n_ukraine.html
 
However, the USA  this past week received the first upgraded M270A2 which sees many improvements. https://www.armyrecognition.com/defe...o_us_army.html
 
Looks like GEPHARD  won't arrive until possibly  the end of this month but likely  in August. Training has apparently been going well the delay came from the German Gov't .
 
Spain is still trying to get their former LEOPARD 2A4  tanks to the Ukraine. See the above for who's delaying that as well . 
 
Unless we're all going to get a big surprise, I'm starting to think the German LEOPARD 1A5  tank deal might not happen for the Ukraine.
 
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