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Old September 4th, 2023, 11:28 PM

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An example of equipment Ukraine had in the past and now lost.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour...lI_KklfZe08Db6

The article implies Ukraine has no real TB2 force anymore. Therefore, if we had them in the game, we would adjust the OOB accordingly.


LMAO.

https://twitter.com/Osinttechnical/s...83877562499214

https://twitter.com/Osinttechnical/s...66467379437763

Bayraktars are back blowing stuff up.

Seems like the AFU just pulled them back for a while from the frontlines to let Russian ADA degrade enough to make it worthwhile to use again.
Kherson is considered non combat. Also, there are no missiles fired which is strange.

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Also first Bradley FIST video -- they got something like 7 or so BFISTs out of 125 Bradleys
As it happens there's only one video of a bradley firing its weapons, I'm not sure if the FISTV are fully armed either.
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Old September 5th, 2023, 08:45 AM
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Kherson is considered non combat. Also, there are no missiles fired which is strange.
Really ? The boat exploding wasn't enough for you ?

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]Also first Bradley FIST video -- they got something like 7 or so BFISTs out of 125 Bradleys
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As it happens there's only one video of a bradley firing its weapons, I'm not sure if the FISTV are fully armed either.

So because only one video shows a bradley firing its weapons you are not sure if the FISTV are fully armed ?

You have no evidence they are not but you are doing a fine job of making the prophecy you made at the start of your latest posting cycle become a reality,,,,,,,


https://forum.shrapnelgames.com/showthread.php?t=53019


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Kherson is considered non combat. Also, there are no missiles fired which is strange.
Really ? The boat exploding wasn't enough for you ?

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]Also first Bradley FIST video -- they got something like 7 or so BFISTs out of 125 Bradleys
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As it happens there's only one video of a bradley firing its weapons, I'm not sure if the FISTV are fully armed either.

So because only one video shows a bradley firing its weapons you are not sure if the FISTV are fully armed ?

You have no evidence they are not but you are doing a fine job of making the prophecy you made at the start of your latest posting cycle become a reality,,,,,,,


https://forum.shrapnelgames.com/showthread.php?t=53019


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Nothing says TROLL like a comment like that

Take the hint.
Call me a troll if you want but I will still reply to your specific requests.

The TOW on the FIST is removed. I believe that's already in the game.

There is apparently a stabilizer issue with the older FIST, I don't think this in the game, correct me if I'm wrong.



All ukranian bradleys are m2 and thus a less upgraded model. The m3 and m7 have a stabilizer. It is implied the older bradleys cannot move and target, specifically the FIST.

This might be a general problem with all M2 or just the FIST due to the different electrical work.
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As it happens there's only one video of a bradley firing its weapons, I'm not sure if the FISTV are fully armed either.
https://www.cnn.com/2023/09/05/europ...cmd/index.html

Yet southward progress is precisely what the Ukrainian soldiers with the call signs Karatsupa, Pan and Taba seek, driving their American-made Bradley Fighting Vehicles down a road that is also, they believe, the road to Ukrainian victory.

Every day, under relentless fire, they drive fresh troops in and spent ones out, with just 30 seconds to make the swap on the battlefield.

“I’ve been serving since 2014 and I’ve never encountered such minefields anywhere. Just hectares of them, to the left and to the right,” said Karatsupa. “A lot of trenches, dugouts. And all this for dozens of kilometers. They even throw mines at the territory we are taking. Without the mines, we would already be in Tokmak.”

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But without the Bradleys, say the men, no one would have survived. They proudly showed CNN some of the direct artillery hits the US-made armored vehicles had taken, singing their praises repeatedly
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As it happens there's only one video of a bradley firing its weapons, I'm not sure if the FISTV are fully armed either.
https://www.cnn.com/2023/09/05/europ...cmd/index.html

Yet southward progress is precisely what the Ukrainian soldiers with the call signs Karatsupa, Pan and Taba seek, driving their American-made Bradley Fighting Vehicles down a road that is also, they believe, the road to Ukrainian victory.

Every day, under relentless fire, they drive fresh troops in and spent ones out, with just 30 seconds to make the swap on the battlefield.

“I’ve been serving since 2014 and I’ve never encountered such minefields anywhere. Just hectares of them, to the left and to the right,” said Karatsupa. “A lot of trenches, dugouts. And all this for dozens of kilometers. They even throw mines at the territory we are taking. Without the mines, we would already be in Tokmak.”

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But without the Bradleys, say the men, no one would have survived. They proudly showed CNN some of the direct artillery hits the US-made armored vehicles had taken, singing their praises repeatedly
You are proving my point, my point is they are using them as transports and not weapons.
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You are proving my point, my point is they are using them as transports and not weapons.
https://twitter.com/front_ukrainian/...94618533527730

https://twitter.com/bayraktar_1love/...94004193448307

https://twitter.com/GloOouD/status/1670766461248307202

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You are proving my point, my point is they are using them as transports and not weapons.
https://twitter.com/front_ukrainian/...94618533527730

https://twitter.com/bayraktar_1love/...94004193448307

https://twitter.com/GloOouD/status/1670766461248307202


In the videos you posted it is evident the gun is not stabilized. But anyway, you did find it was able to fire weapons, but you also proved the sight is not stabilized.

In the third video there is no Oryx loss traceable to the incident so they are firing at nothing.
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In the videos you posted it is evident the gun is not stabilized.




From TM 9-2350-252-10-2 for the Bradley.
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https://apps.dtic.mil/sti/tr/pdf/ADA147208.pdf

BRADLEY INFANTRY FIGHTING VEHICLE PROCEDURES GUIDE: COMMANDER AND GUNNER (FEBRUARY 1984)

PDF Page 19, says that step #7 in shutting down the turret to exit the vehicle is to MOVE TO OFF...the STAB SWITCH.

This is a manual from 1984, for the M2A0 -- we know this because the M2A1 was not introduced until 1986.
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