Question about Ukraine OOB...

[Mustang]

Originally Posted by MarkSheppard

https://www.cnn.com/2023/09/05/europ...cmd/index.html

Yet southward progress is precisely what the Ukrainian soldiers with the call signs Karatsupa, Pan and Taba seek, driving their American-made Bradley Fighting Vehicles down a road that is also, they believe, the road to Ukrainian victory.

Every day, under relentless fire, they drive fresh troops in and spent ones out, with just 30 seconds to make the swap on the battlefield.

“I’ve been serving since 2014 and I’ve never encountered such minefields anywhere. Just hectares of them, to the left and to the right,” said Karatsupa. “A lot of trenches, dugouts. And all this for dozens of kilometers. They even throw mines at the territory we are taking. Without the mines, we would already be in Tokmak.”

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But without the Bradleys, say the men, no one would have survived. They proudly showed CNN some of the direct artillery hits the US-made armored vehicles had taken, singing their praises repeatedly

You are proving my point, my point is they are using them as transports and not weapons.

[MarkSheppard]

Originally Posted by Mustang

You are proving my point, my point is they are using them as transports and not weapons.

https://twitter.com/front_ukrainian/...94618533527730

https://twitter.com/bayraktar_1love/...94004193448307

https://twitter.com/GloOouD/status/1670766461248307202

[Mustang]

Originally Posted by MarkSheppard

https://twitter.com/front_ukrainian/...94618533527730

https://twitter.com/bayraktar_1love/...94004193448307

https://twitter.com/GloOouD/status/1670766461248307202

In the videos you posted it is evident the gun is not stabilized. But anyway, you did find it was able to fire weapons, but you also proved the sight is not stabilized.

In the third video there is no Oryx loss traceable to the incident so they are firing at nothing.

[MarkSheppard]

Originally Posted by Mustang

In the videos you posted it is evident the gun is not stabilized.

From TM 9-2350-252-10-2 for the Bradley.

[MarkSheppard]

https://apps.dtic.mil/sti/tr/pdf/ADA147208.pdf

BRADLEY INFANTRY FIGHTING VEHICLE PROCEDURES GUIDE: COMMANDER AND GUNNER (FEBRUARY 1984)

PDF Page 19, says that step #7 in shutting down the turret to exit the vehicle is to MOVE TO OFF...the STAB SWITCH.

This is a manual from 1984, for the M2A0 -- we know this because the M2A1 was not introduced until 1986.

[DRG]

Originally Posted by MarkSheppard

https://apps.dtic.mil/sti/tr/pdf/ADA147208.pdf

BRADLEY INFANTRY FIGHTING VEHICLE PROCEDURES GUIDE: COMMANDER AND GUNNER (FEBRUARY 1984)

PDF Page 19, says that step #7 in shutting down the turret to exit the vehicle is to MOVE TO OFF...the STAB SWITCH.

This is a manual from 1984, for the M2A0 -- we know this because the M2A1 was not introduced until 1986.

The entire "conversation" was getting ridiculous. We've been doing this too long to not know when someone's talking out of their arse and neither of us has any patience for it. The insistence that the Bradley gun was not stabilized was not quite the final straw... more like the bale that broke the camel's back

There are ample sources that support that it is.

This in regards to ERA
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zon...reactive-armor

More than a month into the long-awaited Ukrainian counteroffensive, U.S.-supplied M2A2 Bradley ODS infantry fighting vehicles have taken some punishment from Russian forces. Videos early in the counteroffensive showed Bradleys taking hits and being abandoned as Ukrainians advanced on Russian lines. Now Ukraine appears to have upgraded some of its Bradleys with at least parts of the Bradley Urban Survival Kit (BUSK), offering improved protection.

The boxy explosive reactive armor (ERA) bricks around the sides of the hull, known as Bradley Reactive Armor Tiles (BRAT), are but one component of a fully equipped BUSK M2.