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September 5th, 2023, 05:46 PM
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September 5th, 2023, 05:51 PM
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Re: Question about Ukraine OOB...
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In the videos you posted it is evident the gun is not stabilized. But anyway, you did find it was able to fire weapons, but you also proved the sight is not stabilized.
In the third video there is no Oryx loss traceable to the incident so they are firing at nothing. |
September 5th, 2023, 06:39 PM
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Re: Question about Ukraine OOB...
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In the videos you posted it is evident the gun is not stabilized.
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From TM 9-2350-252-10-2 for the Bradley. |
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September 5th, 2023, 06:56 PM
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Re: Question about Ukraine OOB...
https://apps.dtic.mil/sti/tr/pdf/ADA147208.pdf
BRADLEY INFANTRY FIGHTING VEHICLE PROCEDURES GUIDE: COMMANDER AND GUNNER (FEBRUARY 1984)
PDF Page 19, says that step #7 in shutting down the turret to exit the vehicle is to MOVE TO OFF...the STAB SWITCH.
This is a manual from 1984, for the M2A0 -- we know this because the M2A1 was not introduced until 1986.
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September 5th, 2023, 10:03 PM
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Re: Question about Ukraine OOB...
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Originally Posted by MarkSheppard
https://apps.dtic.mil/sti/tr/pdf/ADA147208.pdf
BRADLEY INFANTRY FIGHTING VEHICLE PROCEDURES GUIDE: COMMANDER AND GUNNER (FEBRUARY 1984)
PDF Page 19, says that step #7 in shutting down the turret to exit the vehicle is to MOVE TO OFF...the STAB SWITCH.
This is a manual from 1984, for the M2A0 -- we know this because the M2A1 was not introduced until 1986.
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The entire "conversation" was getting ridiculous. We've been doing this too long to not know when someone's talking out of their arse and neither of us has any patience for it. The insistence that the Bradley gun was not stabilized was not quite the final straw... more like the bale that broke the camel's back
There are ample sources that support that it is.
This in regards to ERA
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zon...reactive-armor
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More than a month into the long-awaited Ukrainian counteroffensive, U.S.-supplied M2A2 Bradley ODS infantry fighting vehicles have taken some punishment from Russian forces. Videos early in the counteroffensive showed Bradleys taking hits and being abandoned as Ukrainians advanced on Russian lines. Now Ukraine appears to have upgraded some of its Bradleys with at least parts of the Bradley Urban Survival Kit (BUSK), offering improved protection.
The boxy explosive reactive armor (ERA) bricks around the sides of the hull, known as Bradley Reactive Armor Tiles (BRAT), are but one component of a fully equipped BUSK M2.
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