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Old January 21st, 2025, 04:43 PM
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BTR-60 APCs were employed widely both by the Soviet Army and by more than 30 export customers.[15] Operators of the BTR-60 have included Afghanistan, Algeria, Angola, Bhutan, Botswana, Bulgaria, Cambodia, Congo, Cuba, Djibouti, East Germany, Ethiopia, Finland, Grenada, Guinea, Guinea-Bissau, Hungary, India, Iran, Iraq, Laos, Libya, Mali, Mongolia, Mexico, Morocco, Mozambique, Nicaragua, North Korea, Romania, Soviet Union, Syria, Uganda, Vietnam, Yugoslavia, Yemen, and Zambia, as well as many of the successor states of the Soviet Union.[27] The most widely spread model is the BTR-60PB.

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BTR-60 APCs were employed widely both by the Soviet Army and by more than 30 export customers.[15] Operators of the BTR-60 have included Afghanistan, Algeria, Angola, Bhutan, Botswana, Bulgaria, Cambodia, Congo, Cuba, Djibouti, East Germany, Ethiopia, Finland, Grenada, Guinea, Guinea-Bissau, Hungary, India....
They're right. I already said, that Hungarian Wikipedia on BTR-60 lists Hungary among users, without any details.
However, it evidently concerns command and radio versions, as users of the quoted Hungarian modelling forum came to a conclusion.
However, with its limited timespan, it could be left, just in case. I only wondered, why they didn't used them until 1989...

As for OT-64 - anyway, there were none by 2004 anymore according to Jane's.
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39 2S1 Gvozdika - according to https://web.archive.org/web/20070222...giment_070219/, adopted in late 1970s, first shown in public in 1980 (now 1/81). Needs change in formations: 281, 282. The page confirmed withdrawal in 2004 (BTW, in Hungarian language it was apparently known as 2Sz1 Gvozgyika, or 2SZ1)

Hungary also used 2S3 Akatsia (known as 2Sz3M Akacia) from early 1980s (first shown in 1985) until 1993.

43 ZSU-23-4 Szylka - Hungarian Wikipedia on army equipment https://hu.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Magy...9g_fegyverzete already in 2011 revision listed it as out of service, leaving Hungary without SPAA gun, until an arrival of Skyranger in an unpredicted future.

The same with 165, 169 BM-21 Grad Pl - marked as out of service in 2016 revision, leaving Hungary without rocket artillery.

I think that's all. Thank you for your time.

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One more thing about APCs occured to me. It seems, that PSzH with its 7-men carry capacity, was the most typical (and possibly only) Hungarian APC in 1970s and 1980s, made in 2600 units of all variants, not a scout vehicle... Páncélozott szállító harcjármű even translates as "armoured personnel carrier". I have no idea, how many men were in infantry squads - but I'm afraid, that PSzH should be an ordinary APC (wheeled), and the squad should be 7

"2,600 of the vehicle were produced between 1970 and 1979. The first mechanized rifle brigades were equipped with this vehicle, which was only withdrawn from service towards the end of the 1990s" https://web.archive.org/web/20130609...ncelosok/pszh/

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Small tweak: 021 Leopard 2A7HU - first one was officially commissioned in 12/23, and by the end of 2023 five were expected in service, so more realistic date is 1/24 (now 10/23) (according to Polish military magazine from 12/23)
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I've found in 2011 article, that Hungary used GAZ-66 Lama truck launchers for Igla SAMs. Probably with an advent of unit 426 Igla in 1986 until 12/2011 (btw: according to the article, they fired last missiles in 4/11)
The unit might be copied from 046 Mistral Unimog, a generic photo of GAZ-66 might be 32174. There are two missiles and unknown number of reloads.
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