Riddle me this

[Elowan]

Originally posted by DirectorTsaarx:
OT BTW - nice references to "The King and I" with "'tis a puzzlement". And that "...no old, bold space jockies" sounds familiar - I think there's a line "...no old, bold wizards" in the Bakshi movie "Wizards"?

Firstly - that quote from the 'King and I' has always resonated for me. The 'old, bold ...' is a rephrasing of something my flight instructor once said: 'There are old pilots and there are bold pilots but there are no old, bold pilots'.

As to the other stuff. I don't use a 'mod' folder. I'm not playing with external mods only the changes I've made to Components, Tech and Vehicle size. Since I'm a solo player - those are revised originals.

Perhaps I need to look at the original files written by 1.78 and see if something was changed there. I backed up my original *.txt files and then re-copied them back into the DATA folder.

Hmmm - perhaps that's where the diffuglement lies. Sigh!

[ August 28, 2002, 16:49: Message edited by: Elowan ]

[Elowan]

Well ... I solved the problem. Something someone said got me thinking. But it took awhile of changing VehicleSize.txt by taking out extra ships; then shortening ship names - no joy.

Then I re-read this thread.

Hmmm. My current race was originally entitled United Federation. I changed this to Antaran Federation. For awhile - both races shared ship designs until I left off updating UF.

Tonite, on a hunch, I zipped up UF; started up a game and edited Antaran Federation.

Now all the ships show in the Design Screen and list.

Du'oh! I had made the Antaran Federation race from my original UF but the empire file was pointing to the UF folder because I didn't change it when I changed the race name and other things.

So ... there's abug alright -- buzzing around in my cranium!

I ... gasp ... need a ... vacation ... or more beer ... or ........

[Elowan]

This same problem crops up if you make a civ based on another and then generate new ships in a folder dedicated to the new civ. SE4 will look for new ship designs in the old folder; that is - the folder of the race you based your civ on.

To avoid this, make sure that you copy the model civs folder, rename it and the first part of the ships file names and then reconstruct your new empire based on that new folder.

If you don't do this and you make new ship designs (as I have) with different names or add to the number of ships -- you'll get constant 'can't find generic_blah_moreblah.bmp' msgs.

[ September 03, 2002, 19:24: Message edited by: Elowan ]