OT: Star Trek Nemesis

[geoschmo]

I read some interesting stuff onetime on this. It wasn't "canon" information but it sounded plausible. Some of it was from the Trek books that come out every month. They produce like 3 or four books every month by different authors. Some are good, some not so good. A lot of Trekkies don't even acknowledge them, but they can be a good source of "semi-canon" information.

Anyway, the stuff I read was on a website and I don't know if the guy made it up or read it somewhere what but he had this explanation that the Federation started a massive construction buildup after the first meeting between the Borg and the Enterprise. He said that while a lot of ships got bLasted at Wolf 359, a lot more were in the pipeline, and that that disaster caused an even bigger buildup. That basically the Federation was already producing ships at a wartime rate because of the constant threat of Borg invasion and that this all just happened to coincide with the war against the Dominion.

Geoschmo

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Originally posted by Hadrian Tyrael S. Aventine:
Remember, the US fleet went from like 13 carriers at the start of WW2 to over 100 by the middle of WW2.

I suspect it was cheaper for the Federation to crank out smaller ships faster that have already been designed.

Larger ships like the Galaxy class became massive troopships with extra transporters isntalled and the crew levels left wide open.

Meanwhile, ships like the Ambassadors and the era of ships between Ambassador and Galaxy were either cut down in the opening wave of the war or have been exiled to maintain Federation borders.

Hey, don't be surprised if the dominion managed to push right up to earth's orbit that the Federation would start attacking with old ICBM's and maybe the NX-01. But if that happened, I would stop watching trek.

Very true, I recall seeing an interview that explained why more and more insane shis appearing too. A lot of ships were cobbled together from other ships to save time or something like that.

[ June 16, 2003, 05:14: Message edited by: General Talashar ]

[Magnum357]

Hadrian does bring up a point that at the beginning of WWII their where very few Carriers in the US arsnenal. By the End of the war, we had like over a hundred, but most of them where small "jeep carriers" (converted Freighters to launch fighters from) and were not exactly as capable as the larger Feet carriers.

I think sense the Founders don't really care how many of their Gem hedar soldiers die, I would think then that most of their small ships (maybe even their large ones too) where probaby pretty simple vessels to produce and my not be much of a match one on one. Like for example, its probably a good bet that a Galaxy Class starship could defeat a Dominion Crusier, but possible that the Dominion could produce 2 or 3 Crusiers much easier then the Feds could.

[gregebowman]

Originally posted by geoschmo:
I read some interesting stuff onetime on this. It wasn't "canon" information but it sounded plausible. Some of it was from the Trek books that come out every month. They produce like 3 or four books every month by different authors. Some are good, some not so good. A lot of Trekkies don't even acknowledge them, but they can be a good source of "semi-canon" information.

Geoschmo

Yeah, I'm one of those Trekkies who hardly ever read a Star Trek novel, until it's from Peter David or someone of that caliber. I really like the ghost-written Shatner books. They don't coordinate anything between any of the authors, and if you could track down all of the stardates, I wouldn't be surprised if 2 different novels were using the same stardates in different parts of the galaxy. That's why I like reading the Star Wars books. Not only do they get their blessing from George Lucas, but they even include all of the (Dark Horse) comics in their overall story line. Now, I must admit that I'm not particularly happy with the current storyline with the Vong, but I'll read a Star Wars book over a Star Trek book anytime. Besides, George Lucas has said that anything written is canon, unless he specifically changes it in a movie. Paramount says that unless you see it in a movie or an episode, it's not canon. Which one would you prefer?

[ September 11, 2002, 02:17: Message edited by: gregebowman ]

[Atrocities]

I remember having this very same discussion over two years ago on a long since dead Star Trek fan site. How did the Federation arm so quickly after the loss at Wolf 359 to the 600 plus ships of each fleet in the Dominion War?

The official Star Trek answer is refurbished mothballed ships, rapid development and construction of new ships, and purchasing of ships built by other parties to Federation standards.

Until the Borg attack the Federation was a research and exploration focused society with few ships for fighting. They had in fact had an on going conflict with the Cardassians as described in the 4th season episode called "The Wounded" where we were introduced to both the Cardassians and the Nebula class star ship.

Following the Borg attack the Federation began a crash course in ship design and construction, and from that the Akira, Sovereign, steamrunner, intrepid, and defiant class ships were born.

Think of it as well, like the beginnings of a SEIV game. At first you’re dedicated to exploration, until you meet a hostile enemy, then you begin researching new weapons, and ship designs. You then begin a rapid production of these ships in anticipation of war.

That is essentially what happened in the Trek universe.

[Ragnarok]

Massive bump. But for a good reason. The new trailer for Nemesis is out. It looks even better in this. Although what it looks like it they might trash the Enterprise. Which sucks. But none the less it looks like a awesome movie. Go HERE! {Link}

[Fyron]

I just saw the preview for the season premier of Enterprise next week, and I'll be damned if I didn't just see a Romulan ship.