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October 10th, 2002, 10:30 AM
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Re: Your Favorite/worse weapon poll
Favs: seeking parasite (fastest reloading missiles) and PPB.
Least use: Massive shield depleater/disperser. Just hate to think that I could miss with that and then all the space it takes is wasted 
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October 10th, 2002, 02:52 PM
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Re: Your Favorite/worse weapon poll
I play Proportions mod only, so my list
is for that mod:
Favorite : Torpedos. PvK made them usefull
and I simply like the sound they made.
Uuooghhh... Uuooghh... or something
Shield-skipping Graviton Hellbore in Prop2.5
is my second favorite.
Useless: Direct-fire Organic weapons. PvK left them as in normal SE and with all those changes to other weapons Organic' are very weak. Seeking Parasite is the only worthy organic weapon now
PPB are almost useless too - research cost is very high.
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October 10th, 2002, 03:10 PM
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Re: Your Favorite/worse weapon poll
In regards to the Ripper Beam, what if it could be used on Med or Large Fighters? This could make them more deadly up close and increase the worth of using them as well as increasing the worth of fighters later in the game with a better in close weapon.
Just some ideas Mac
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October 10th, 2002, 03:48 PM
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Re: Your Favorite/worse weapon poll
Quote:
Originally posted by oleg:
I play Proportions mod only, so my list
is for that mod:
Favorite : Torpedos. PvK made them usefull
and I simply like the sound they made.
Uuooghhh... Uuooghh... or something
Shield-skipping Graviton Hellbore in Prop2.5
is my second favorite.
Useless: Direct-fire Organic weapons. PvK left them as in normal SE and with all those changes to other weapons Organic' are very weak. Seeking Parasite is the only worthy organic weapon now
PPB are almost useless too - research cost is very high.
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Direct-fire Organic aren't useless, because they cost organics, and were not weak to start with, especially since you can generally buy and build more of them than non-Organic weapons.
Early PPB are only about as worthless as they were in Space Empires III, which is good because they skip normal shields, so normal shields are a more viable defense option. Meanwhile, if you stick it out, the later PPB are still as good as in SE4 (though more expensive), so they are still a good late-research weapon.
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October 10th, 2002, 03:50 PM
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Re: Your Favorite/worse weapon poll
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Originally posted by Taera:
I do not understand why is everyone here so much against the Tachyon gun. It is expensive alright but if you have a good resource base and can aford a couple of these on LCs or so the game will get much more interesting. Remember that the smallest components usualy get hurt, meaning that the weapon takes out PDCs quite easy because they got no mounts to defend themselves.
Theoretically this weapon can be considered a counter to most other weapons because it simply disables them. If only it had slightly better damage it would be one of my Favorites. Untill then, i'll stick with energy dampener.
EDIT: Forgot to add that once i researched this weapon rather easy as a cheap research and put a couple to support my missile fleet. Given i had a few shield depleters the results were amazing. Later on i used SD/APB/TAC weapon combo with maximum range. Whenever the enemy came too close he could no longer fire This weapon is useful, especialy given the surprise element
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Yes. Have you tried mounting a single tachyon weapon before normal-damage weapons? I think that then the tachyon hit will hit a weapon, and the regular-damage weapons will then hit that weapon too, until it is destroyed.
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October 10th, 2002, 04:00 PM
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Re: Your Favorite/worse weapon poll
Quote:
Originally posted by PvK:
Yes. Have you tried mounting a single tachyon weapon before normal-damage weapons? I think that then the tachyon hit will hit a weapon, and the regular-damage weapons will then hit that weapon too, until it is destroyed.
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IIRC, Tachyon weapon works the same way as ionic dispersor (engine-killer) - all or nothing in a single shot. Namely, there is no "partial damage" carry over after the shot. It either destroys the component or the damage is ignored completely. If TW/ID can do more damage than needed for component destruction, this spare damage is also ignored. Thus, mounting normal weapon after component-specific weapon should not give any advantage, there is no any residual after TW/ID.
[ October 10, 2002, 15:01: Message edited by: oleg ]
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October 10th, 2002, 04:20 PM
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Re: Your Favorite/worse weapon poll
Quote:
Uuooghhh... Uuooghh... or something
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I dunno... To me it sounds more like Ooauuugh... Ooauuugh...

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