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Re: OT of OT: Rating Fyron -- no longer possible
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The other person kept making counter arguments and then in the same post saying he was done. You can not do that. If you want to end a discussion, you say just that, not continue it. It is not my fault that he didn't really mean it when he said the discussion was over on his end (or if he did mean it, he implemented it incorrectly [Wink] ).
He only had 1 argument, and it was wrong. He just repeated the same argument over and over again. That does not make me "unwilling to give a single argument any acceptance" because I can not accept 1 argument that is inherently flawed. Had he offered many arguments, you would have a valid point. But, he only had 1 argument, and several pieces of evidence.
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Fyron, the only reason I kept coming back to offer counter arguments was because you were putting words in my mouth, or computer in this case.
In fact you did that in the Last two Posts in that thread. But I saw no need in continueing the conversation.
My arguments may be "inherently flawed" to you, but your arguments are "inherently flawed" to me. I'm not starting this again, I just wanted to clear that up. You never countered my arguments besides saying, "I'm right, you're wrong."
With that said, I'm going to continue lurking in this thread.
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Re: OT of OT: Rating Fyron -- no longer possible
Ahhhhh I thought your were here for an arguement
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Re: OT of OT: Rating Fyron -- no longer possible
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Ahhhhh I thought your were here for an arguement
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Ok Monty.
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Fyron, the only reason I kept coming back to offer counter arguments was because you were putting words in my mouth, or computer in this case.
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No I did not. Again, you are wrong. bwhahahah.
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You never countered my arguments besides saying, "I'm right, you're wrong."
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I am not sure what else I could have said that I did not say, as the Bible was written after the historical events it supposedly predicted (or more precisely, the parts that did the "predicting" were written after the fact, as not all of the Bible was written at the same time), and the comment about more earthquakes recently as compared to when mankind "was put on earth" is just so wrong I didn't even know where to begin. That would require a massive increase in tectonic activity, which just is not going to happen within a century. Tectonic time scales are unfathomable to the human mind, and the plate tectonics of Earth take a long time for major shifts to occur.
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Re: OT of OT: Rating Fyron -- no longer possible
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...and the comment about more earthquakes recently as compared to when mankind "was put on earth" is just so wrong I didn't even know where to begin. That would require a massive increase in tectonic activity, which just is not going to happen within a century. Tectonic time scales are unfathomable to the human mind, and the plate tectonics of Earth take a long time for major shifts to occur.
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You are too much of a scientist here. You granted (in the other thread) that the perceived number of quakes might be higher today but not the actually numbers. That is of course a valid point. But then again the Bible does not say that the actual number of quakes will raise but just that there will be more quakes. Just more perceived or real is not stated and up to the reader. So both of you might be right, just a point of view.
Now you know why I study law.
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Hmmm.. without going and finding a bible (I'm at work, and don't think it's likely that one is lying about anywhere) I need to harken back to my memory. I think the bible implies that there will be an increase in war, rumors of war, earthquakes, some other bad stuff, etc. Could it be that our advanced communications technology simply increases the amount of reportage on such events? And so the bible could be accurate, in that the average Joe will perceive that there are more wars, earthquakes, etc. as an artifact of our technology rather than know that there is or isn't such an increase.
i.e. who would have known in NY that a 7.0 tremor went off in New Deli in the early 1800s? But today, everyone in the western world finds out when a tremor 6.0 goes of in Ebbi A'boud Afganistan within about 1 hour!!
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Re: OT of OT: Rating Fyron -- no longer possible
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But then again the Bible does not say that the actual number of quakes will raise but just that there will be more quakes. Just more perceived or real is not stated and up to the reader.
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You forgot to add that Chewbacca is a wookie that lives on Endor.
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Re: OT of OT: Rating Fyron -- no longer possible
Hell, somebody rated me 1 star again!
I bet it was someone in the Moon thread. Everytime I say something politically incorrect I get a bad rating.
Lol, I think I understand now what Fyron was feeling when he started this thread........
I want 5 stars!
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Hmmm.. without going and finding a bible (I'm at work, and don't think it's likely that one is lying about anywhere) I need to harken back to my memory. I think the bible implies that there will be an increase in war, rumors of war, earthquakes, some other bad stuff, etc. Could it be that our advanced communications technology simply increases the amount of reportage on such events? And so the bible could be accurate, in that the average Joe will perceive that there are more wars, earthquakes, etc. as an artifact of our technology rather than know that there is or isn't such an increase.
i.e. who would have known in NY that a 7.0 tremor went off in New Deli in the early 1800s? But today, everyone in the western world finds out when a tremor 6.0 goes of in Ebbi A'boud Afganistan within about 1 hour!!
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Exactly. I just never could put that into words.
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I think...therefore I am confused.
They were armed. With guns, said Omari.
Canadians. With guns. And a warship. What is this world coming to?
The dreaded derelict dwelling two ton devil bunny!
Every ship can be a minesweeper... Once
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Re: OT of OT: Rating Fyron -- no longer possible
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quote: Originally posted by Mephisto:
But then again the Bible does not say that the actual number of quakes will raise but just that there will be more quakes. Just more perceived or real is not stated and up to the reader.
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You forgot to add that Chewbacca is a wookie that lives on Endor. About this Bible stuff.
I don't know why they included Revelation in the Bible.
IIRC, it was written by John the Divine, a century or two after Jesus's death.
Now John the Divine is not the disciple John.
It just seems to be tacked on at the end of the Bible and seems out of place and out of sync with the rest of the Bible.
Maybe it was included to put the fear of the Lord into "us" Christians.
Now, before I get dunning Messages from Fyron et al, these are just my thoughts and are only presented to encourage a open-minded discussion.
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Re: OT of OT: Rating Fyron -- no longer possible
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quote: Originally posted by jimbob:
Hmmm.. without going and finding a bible (I'm at work, and don't think it's likely that one is lying about anywhere) I need to harken back to my memory. I think the bible implies that there will be an increase in war, rumors of war, earthquakes, some other bad stuff, etc. Could it be that our advanced communications technology simply increases the amount of reportage on such events? And so the bible could be accurate, in that the average Joe will perceive that there are more wars, earthquakes, etc. as an artifact of our technology rather than know that there is or isn't such an increase.
i.e. who would have known in NY that a 7.0 tremor went off in New Deli in the early 1800s? But today, everyone in the western world finds out when a tremor 6.0 goes of in Ebbi A'boud Afganistan within about 1 hour!!
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Exactly. I just never could put that into words. That is nowhere near what you said though Rags.
That argument supposes that the claims of the Bible are based off of superstition, ignorance and false belief (about the earthquakes and other disasters). This does not seem like a good basis for such claims to me.
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