KingMaker - let the Ascension War commence!

[Xietor]

A no from Lingchih btw.

I still have 3 more pms outstanding(one to KO). if they are all negative, I will open it to the public.

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Hey, I resent being called a good player!

For what it's worth, I consider Xietor to be one of the most honorable people I've played this game with. Also the most verbose, but that's beside the point.

In the game we played together, in which we were two of the top nations, Xietor and I were initially friendly, then I attacked him and he soundly defeated all my attacks. For all he knows, I could be looking for revenge, if I was some kind of person who carried grudges over from game to game. (Which I don't, but he doesn't know that, right?)

Accusations of unfairness are just going to make this game look unfun, and it'll be even harder to get a sub.

[Zeldor]

Well, it makes the situation clear. Player getting a temp sub for him would usually leave contact info to the person taking over, just in case someone wants to do some diplomacy. I doubt Hadrian would have anything against it either [but if he is taking over just for 1 turn no one can blame him for ignoring any diplomatic messages as he is in no position to sign anything].

I will admin also not so small game soon, so I will have a taste of that too

[Xietor]

To show I did not play favorites the perm sub is K.

My only contact with K is from the last Big Game where we were bitter enemies and I killed off his race. Other than the last Big Game I have no other gaming expereince with K, and before the last Big Game had never heard of him.

So if you want to open diplomacy with Formoria, K is your new guy.

Let me be the 1st to say welcome to Kingmaker K, and we pray(wipe sweat from forehead), that you will honor our 6 turn nap that currently exists between our nations. We have had a long and historical peace. A paved road exists between our capitals to facilitate trade.

We have werewolf repellent if you need it. And we will gladly point out where your former boundaries used to be(before you were brutally savaged by utgard!).

[DonCorazon]

X,
Did you forget to tell him that old Fomoria ignored your defense pact, and failed to heed your calls for help? I mean since you are providing such an objective and fair portrayal of the diplomatic situation I just assumed that was part of your briefing...

Since that treaty was clearly broken, a savvy player might use this opportunity to gain some new ground in Arcos, who is fighting many battles at once. And what Arcos considers a "war", we in Utgard just consider good-natured roughhousing.

[Lingchih]

Sorry for bowing out. I am in too many games as it is, and I don't even like Fomoria. Hopefully K will do a good job.

[Xietor]

LA Arcos is, as you say, fighting many battles at once. Why is it that Utgard is afraid to fight one fair one? Just curious. Do you really want to see Ruin add Utgard and Formoria as well? Then if Ruin is defeated, will you be able to clang your mugs in your halls and celebrate a war well won?

But LA Arcos only has 2 capitals in Formoria's area. And I doubt anyone wants to pay the price to dig Ruin out of LA Arcos capital. And are you promising those 2 capitals to Formoria should he take them?

Utgard owns 5 capitals. Seems like a much bigger prize awaits the race that takes down Utgard.

[Zeldor]

But isn't it Xietor and his allies going for world domination and using Fomoria to fight his wars? Can Ruin guarantee that he won't be next targets of his friends Niefelheim and Man?

I must admit there is really more action in the east

[Foodstamp]

XIEROT YOU HAVE CROSSED THE LINE. YOU ARE NOT UNBIASED MODERATOR 11!!!!ONE!!11 hELHEIM LOOK FOR SUB SO I DON'T PLAY UNFAIR GAME ANYMORE NI HAO.

[Xietor]

LA Arcos is a small peaceful nation who was brutally and without provocation attacked, 1st by ulm, then by Bandar Log and LA Marignon. Ulm attacked Ruin while he was still at war with LA Tien Chi, then Bandar Log and La marignon piled on while LA Arcos sought to punish Ulm for its ruthless assault.

The small peaceful nation of LA Arcoscephale has not known peace since year one. We have no allies. True, Bandar Log overextended itself and niefelheim attacked it. But that hardly makes LA Arcos allies of the Giants. As Bandar Log can attest LA Arcos attacked niefelheim as well as bandar Log when they were in my domain.

All LA Arcoscephale ever desired was peace. Like the hobbits, to be left alone to raise our crops, drink our beer, and sing our songs. Ever has war been forced upon us. When has our peaceful nation ever sought it out?