MP: Noobs & Vets: Rise of the AI Menace. EA, BI. Game Over. Team ACGHHS wins!

[DrPraetorious]

I would like to be team D. I need to consult with my lieutenants before picking nations, however.

[Septimius Severus]

Originally Posted by chrispedersen

Let each captain send a list (as I have) of their Prefences in order.

Ie., perhaps mysterious absolutely wants to pick first to get Hinnom. They would might tell you they want to be team A. And if they can't get A they want B, then C then D.

Another team may choose to be D, A B C.

You as the admin take those suggestions - and then resolve to give the result closest to their best choice.

Then let the picking begin.

Chris, this is quite convoluted, but I think finally understand what your saying:

Team captains PM me with a list of their team letter preferences: A,B,C,D :Four letters in the arrangement they'd like to pick nations. So Dr. P would need 3 more letters(picks).

I then resolve to see who is going to be team A and pick first, who is going to be team B, and pick second, who is going to be team C and pick third, and lastly who is going to be team D and pick last.

Then we get to the actual nation picking and team A chooses their 3 nations and posts here?

Do I have it correct? Seems like everyone one would give there preference as a, b, c, d. In order to go first.

If not you've confounded me totally.

[Executor]

Hmm, wouldn't that lead to the first team getting the strongest nations and the forth team getting the weakest?
I'm fine either way whatever the nations are, but wouldn't it be easier to get random picks?

[Septimius Severus]

I really think we ought to stick with my suggestion, each captain submitting a list of 12 or so nations then I resolve via this method:

Myst.......Deva's........Blessed..........Noobheim

Hinnom....Arco..........Hinnom...........Abys (Deva's get Arco, and Noobheim gets Abys)
Arco........Ermor.........Sauro............Hinnom (Deva's get Ermor, Blesseds get Sauro, Noobheim gets Hinnom)
Ermor......Sauro.........Agartha..........Arco (Blesseds get Agartha)

Etc.

Lets keep this as simple as possible.

Failing any agreement or a full and complete explanation of any alternatives, I will make the final decision on this matter.

Sorry but we must getting going.

[Hoplosternum]

While I understand your frustration Sept I think your method is not a good one

Imagine that all teams put the same three nations top believing these to be the best. But they ALL go to one team simply because he ranked them differently. How is that fair or skillful yet would have a huge impact on the game. All nations were not made equal in Dom 3

Plus it may let very powerful nations go 'cheap' later on, likewise if you are 'thinking the same' as another team you may both end up with just your lower ranked choices. So this method ends up making the rankings/voting very luck dominated.

It would be marginally better if you could pick the same nation multiple times (so you could put Himmon in all the top 5 slots if you wanted, more or less guaranteeing you get it but at the cost of most of the other top nations being taken by others before your second pick arrives).

It also does not really allow any meaningful team construction. By which I mean you may want a Researcher nation, a recruitable Thug nation and a sneaky raider nation. By your method it's much harder to bid for this as you won't know whether you will get your first picks or not. So you may end up with all Sneaky Raiders because the others were all tied.

Both of CPs methods were better IMHO. As both allowed you to use your bids to construct a team. They both allowed you much more control over what you got.

I appreciate they are slightly more complex and would take longer. But the second CP method (the ABCD teams) is pretty quick once the teams are decided. And we could use your method to select which letter each team gets

I suppose it doesn't matter that much, it's just that your method (which would be OK if this were a free for all none team game) seems very bad for team game.

[DrPraetorious]

How's about this - each captain sends in a list of 12 ranked nations, and then you assign the four teams to A,B,C and D randomly?

Then, A gets his first choice, B gets his first (remaining choice)... and then they go backwards?

[chrispedersen]

Originally Posted by Executor

Hmm, wouldn't that lead to the first team getting the strongest nations and the forth team getting the weakest?
I'm fine either way whatever the nations are, but wouldn't it be easier to get random picks?

No

If you look at the pick list it goes ABCD for the first round.
Every round thereafter goes DCBA

So, yes, team A gets the first overall pick - the strongest nation overall. Every other round, he gets the weakest pick.

[archaeolept]

just ask me to assign nations based on what I consider to be the most evil and frustrating combinations

[melnorjr]

I've sent PMs to everyone who wasn't already signed up for the forums - feel free to use it for coordination as you like.

The forum, btw, is here: http://noobsvets.silverforum.net/index.php

[GrudgeBringer]

Wouldn't it just be easier to have someone (archaeolept) have as many numbers as their are captians.

Let the captians pick and thats the order for the first Round.

Second round its reversed, third round its reversed agian etc.

Like Fantasy Football (if any of you play that), its called a 'Snake draft' and it works real well and real fair. (ask the 50 illion plers every year).

so it goes like this (numbers are 1,2,3,4.

Team 1 picks, team 2 picks, team 3 picks, team 4 picks (Round 1 over)

Team 4 picks (yes he picks twice in a row) then team 3, team 2, team 1 (Round 2 over)

Team 1 picks agian ect. Works like a charm and even the 2 and 3 teams get thier fiarhare as they are in the middle each time.