Patch Improvements

[Twan]

Fever fetish still work on undeads, it's just slower (about 1 gem / 4 turns) because they just have one affliction (the "disease" without effect).

[thejeff]

I'll try it again. I don't remember how long I left it on him.

If Fever Fetish generates much less than 1/turn, it's probably not worth doing. Have the other generators been nerfed like that too?

[Endoperez]

thejeff said:
I'll try it again. I don't remember how long I left it on him.

If Fever Fetish generates much less than 1/turn, it's probably not worth doing. Have the other generators been nerfed like that too?

I understand that the original intention was that these items would be used to produce gems for mages that travel with armies, not to generate income. That is, to lessen micromanagement. Few fever fetishes and few undead commanders (Black Servants?) produce about 1 gem/turn, allowing e.g. Machaka to not worry that much about ferrying gems for their mages. In theory, at least.

[Graeme Dice]

thejeff said:
I'll try it again. I don't remember how long I left it on him.

If Fever Fetish generates much less than 1/turn, it's probably not worth doing. Have the other generators been nerfed like that too?

Clams still produce 1 astral pearl per turn, but are now much harder to manufacture, and cost 50% more than before.

[thejeff]

Except that you can't put them on the mages, because they get diseased and die.
You can put them on Black Servants to ferry gems along with the mages, but you still have to distribute them every turn, just as you would if you'd just shipped out gens on normal scouts. (Which you have to do anyway for non fire gems.)

I suppose it's still useful in some situations.

The description makes it sound like it should only work on those who actually suffer from disease. I always assumed it working on undead was something of an exploit. Might be the intent though.

[Taqwus]

...so, you should put it on an undead that's already been mangled (ex. was living Twiceborned mage who died of disease)?

[NTJedi]

Date: 10/19/2006 Main topic updated... I didn't get to add everyones, but it will eventually be done.
Purgatory Section has also been added within the second post.

Please NOTE: Post your approval for suggestions others listed which you find important.
I will update the original topic allowing the developers to see which are in greatest demand.

[Twan]

I'd like to see new awakening options in god design (after all we have just 3 choices instead of lots of castles and themes options).

I imagine...
- in a far away plane (no bless effects before awakening)
- dead (need to be called by priests once available for awakening)
- petrified (will never awaken, only ascension (and/or perhaps a special endgame ritual you can't use before many empowerements) can free him, but he can give bless effects if not in a far away plane ; pretenders petrified in a far away plane are considered non-existant by most mortals and always have a base dominion of 1 - to avoid immobile petrified pretenders with dominion 10 and best scales-)

Being dead should give more points if the god is awaken or dormant as you have fewer priests (something like 75/50/25). Being in a far away plane should give more points if the god is imprisoned or petrified, as you have no bless for a far longer time (something like 25/75/100).

Standard dormant and imprisoned pretenders would have a little less points so the new options won't allow to make overpowered end game gods.

With all these options, the complete list of awakening choices would be :

- awake
- dead but awake (75)
- dormant (100)
- dormant in a far away plane (125)
- dead & dormant (150)
- dead & dormant in a far away plane (175)
- imprisoned (200)
- dead & imprisoned (225)
- petrified (250)
- imprisoned in a far away plane (275)
- dead & imprisoned in a far away plane (300)
- petrified in a far away plane (350 = with a 0 point god all good scales +3 with a medium dominion, but you have no use of anything else)

[Frostmourne27]

Why exactly should the amount of points you get be generally lowered? It is allready less than in Dom2, why would we make it even lower? Also: would dead pretenders lose one from all magic paths? Also, why are you worried about people taking dominion 10, good scales and being unable to actually take part in real world events? Sort of like real-life gods? (depending on beliefs of course) That would be cool.

[dirtywick]

If you're remote searching, I'd like an option to go to the province where you found the site instead of the commander.