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Finalgenesis · #**161** January 7th, 2011, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Groundworm

And the forts... forts hardly seem like an aggressive action, being that most people put them up throughout their territory in order to recruit. And especially on border provinces, purely for defense. This point I most strongly refute as evidence of aggression towards you.

Extracted from our post:

"followed by infiltration of multiple sceptic into our lands and forts to subvert dominion."

Our lands and our forts, meaning your sceptic sitting on our forts to attack dominion and create unrest. Building forts and temples along borders are definitely fair game and not considered an overt act of aggression.

nrasch · #**162** January 7th, 2011, 12:25 PM

I'd like to quickly compliment everyone in the previous NAP discussions on being so mature and reasonable. I can't count the number of times I've seen those kind of posts degrade into trash talking, junior high affairs.

So, well done, and thanks for keeping our game friendly and fun. I even got to learn something as to what might be considered aggressive.

Thanks!
Nathan

Ragnars Wolves · #**163** January 7th, 2011, 02:56 PM

LOL, now I have to agree with Groundworm on forts...It IS his territory and if he wants to build forts, I would say that is his perogitive. Just because he MIGHT make and send skeptics from them doesn't mean anything....Oh, just found out another thing about skeptics, just because they are YOUR skeptics, they will screw up YOUR unrest and domain also. So you see, that is why sketics are considered a possible declaration of war. Why build them if your not going to send them anywhere. I guess it is kind of like holding in football...until you get caught there is no penalty, but once you do, it could be a big one.

Finalgenesis · #**164** January 7th, 2011, 03:38 PM

The passage in question:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Finalgenesis

blah blah...

1st the overwrite of our enchantment, followed by infiltration of multiple sceptic into our lands and forts to subvert dominion.

... blah blah

Now I'm not sure whether it's my poor grammar or the reading comprehension of the readers

. But nowhere did I say that building forts on your own land is a breach of NAP, so please, stop putting words in my mouth.

I believe the problem arises from:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Finalgenesis

...followed by infiltration of multiple sceptic into our lands and forts to subvert dominion...

Maybe this will help:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Finalgenesis

...followed by infiltration of multiple sceptic into our lands and ->OUR<- forts to subvert dominion...

Meaning, insertion of sceptics into our (Yomi's) fort to attack our dominion, NOT building your own fort on your own province to subvert our dominion. And really, forts don't spread dominion...

Ragnars Wolves · #**165** January 7th, 2011, 09:15 PM

NO...but the temples associated with them do.

Sorry, I was just putting my take on forts and skeptics...I will stay out of your guys discussion.

Lihaässä · #**166** January 9th, 2011, 08:41 AM

Anyone missing their turn file? I got the below message from turns@llamaserver.net and I'm not in this game.

@Admin - could you check that I'm not on the list receiving the turnfiles?

Quote:

Hello from the LlamaServer!

This message is just to let you know that I just received a 2h file from you, and it seems to be fine. However, I already received a 2h file from you for the same turn. I'll assume that this newer file is a revised version, and use it instead.

If you sent both this and the previous 2h file within a minute or two of each other, there's some possibility that they arrived in the wrong order. Just to check I'm using the correct one, here's a couple of details of the message that arrived last:

Subject: Re: New turn file: Kindanew, Ulm turn 48
Date sent: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 15:06:17 -0800

If you don't want me to use the 2h file from this e-mail - send your new 2h again!

Game details:

Game name: Kindanew
Nation: Early Era Ulm
Turn number: 48

Who's sent their turn in:
Oceania 2h file received
Yomi Waiting for 2h file
Marverni 2h file received
Abysia 2h file received
Arcoscephale Waiting for 2h file
Ulm 2h file received

The turn will process when all 2h files have been received, or at the latest at 16:15 GMT on Wednesday January 12th.

You can check this information at any time at www.llamaserver.net.

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Problems, questions or suggestions? E-mail llamabeast@llamaserver.net.

mockingbird · #**167** January 10th, 2011, 02:15 PM

Last I checked, it looked like this game might be stalled on Llamaserver. Could one of the admins look into that, please?

Thanks.

Groundworm · #**168** January 10th, 2011, 06:42 PM

Next turn has been generated, so I think that problem (if there was one) has been resolved.

Lihaassa, thanks for mentioning this. Hylobius, are you actually receiving your turn file?

Groundworm · #**169** January 10th, 2011, 06:48 PM

I will walk away from this game with a new understanding of exactly what constitutes breach of a NAP, and this will serve me well in future games.

Can we compromise on the compensation you're due? 25 fire gems?

Hylobius · #**170** January 10th, 2011, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Groundworm

Next turn has been generated, so I think that problem (if there was one) has been resolved.

Lihaassa, thanks for mentioning this. Hylobius, are you actually receiving your turn file?

I am receiving my turn files. The only thing that I did not receive was my confirmation file and now I know where that ended up