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Kungfoo · #**161** May 29th, 2012, 11:26 PM

My war with Gath began before he started to stale, and followed a proper 3-turn notice ending our NAP-3. Casus Belli was brought on by his unnecessary and unduly-threatening troop buildup on our border (as there was no other reasonable place for them to go other than into my territory, I had no choice but to view the existence of a large army of giants as potentially threatening).

NAP termination was given and received on turn 17, and hostilities between our nations broke out on turn 20. Although I deeply regret that Gath has elected not to mount a stronger defense of his peoples, this attitude further justifies my moral high-ground in liberating his peoples from the tyranny of cannibalistic giants who clearly have no regard for their well-being.

That the majority of Gath's forces fell while still under command of their erstwhile God-King furthers my case for continuance of this action, until such time as we are able to secure our borders against the threat of future aggression, and provide the citizenry of Marignon with the prospect of the safe, productive, and happy lives that they so richly deserve.

Let us not lump this just and declared engagement in with the unprovoked and unjustified predations that are happening elsewhere along the borders of Gath and Jomon. That there is a large power vacuum is obvious to everyone surrounding them, and I have no doubt that a peaceable and sensible resolution will sort itself out among all affected nations over the coming months. Engaging in unprovoked and ill-informed public speculation as to the rights and motives of your neighbors is hardly the best way to solve these issues.

Lunaje · #**162** May 30th, 2012, 12:19 AM

I'm not blaming it entirely on you. I'm sure you had your reasons and differences with Gath so you two ended up warring each other. But I'm not doing ill-informed public speculation. I'm just saying you continued your war with them even when he had stalled four turns in a row and without saying anything here about it. If memory serves me right, you weren't besieging their capital four or three turns ago. True, they could be badly hurt by that moment but at least in my view that doesn't justify silently taking their staling capital. And I doubt, if given the proper public notice, that anyone would've tried to grab a prize that you were in a better position to claim.
Maybe I'm nitpicking and I'm too much into making moral stands (I'm blaming you Albert Camus) but I still believe there was a better form to proceed.

Anaconda · #**163** May 30th, 2012, 12:24 AM

What went down, went down. Now we need a sub to give Gath a clean death fast. And a postponement of the next host until one is found.

Kungfoo · #**164** May 30th, 2012, 12:34 AM

Perhaps you're right; I chose to view it as an internal matter. From my viewpoint, as Gath's ability to make war had been effectively neutered, there was little difference in the actions open to him whether his nation was controlled by sentience, AI, or uncontrolled entirely - so I simply followed my initial course of action, which was necessitated by his actions in the first place.

I also second the vote for postponement until the Caelum sub, at least, can take over that nation - finding a sub for Gath at this point is unnecessary, although I certainly wouldn't mind someone taking them over if they wanted to. I'd argue against having someone set them to AI, as the AI's handling of siege mechanics is pitiful and it's frankly more difficult to beat a staled army in a siege.

Anaconda · #**165** May 30th, 2012, 08:53 AM

Legendary League delayed the host. Now I asked him to change the emails for both Caelum and Gath, it shouldnt be impossible to get this going already today.