OT: This Forum is a Historical Account

[Nocturnal]

Fyron, you don't seem to see how funny your two Posts were!

[CNCRaymond]

Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
A big reason that the Roman Empire decayed from within is that they did not have the means to effectively govern such a massive empire from a central location; various provinces (especially far off ones) had too much autonomy, and the emperor/senate had little knowledge of the happenings in such far off provinces. The US has the advantage of instant communications.

So what your saying is.... bigger government means more control? The advantage of instant commincations did little to prevent some of our nations worst disasters.

Another problem with Rome was that the Senate was not a representative body; it was simply composed of members of the major houses of Rome. This is not the case with the US.

this really depends upon your point of view. I think most of the people in the House and Senate are from Major houses of the America. They are mostly from very privlaged families that is.

Additionally, the US has frequent changes in leadership with forced elections. This allows for changes in policy every few years. This will at the very least delay any stagnation or fall.

I think in Roman times they called this public executions or something along the lines of "Feed them to the lions!"

LOL

[ December 14, 2003, 21:01: Message edited by: CNCRaymond ]

[Renegade 13]

Personally, I compare the America of today to the Russia of a couple of decades ago. Russia backrupted itself trying to keep up with, and surpass America in the arms race/cold war. The same scenario is being played out again, only this time in the US. This time, the only difference is the method of backruptcy. America is spending way too much money fighting "terrorism". Their deficit is multiple TRILLIONS. Their economy is (or at least was) sliding a lot. Maybe its just me, but this bears a striking resemblance to the USSR of the not-so-distant past. Maybe American politicians should take a few history courses and learn what they can do to avert the impending crisis.

Just my opinion on the matter.

Renegade 13

[Master Belisarius]

Originally posted by Renegade 13:
Personally, I compare the America of today to the Russia of a couple of decades ago. Russia backrupted itself trying to keep up with, and surpass America in the arms race/cold war. The same scenario is being played out again, only this time in the US. This time, the only difference is the method of backruptcy. America is spending way too much money fighting "terrorism". Their deficit is multiple TRILLIONS. Their economy is (or at least was) sliding a lot. Maybe its just me, but this bears a striking resemblance to the USSR of the not-so-distant past. Maybe American politicians should take a few history courses and learn what they can do to avert the impending crisis.

Just my opinion on the matter.

Renegade 13

I dissagree, basically because think the "Pax Americana" will be here for a long time.
It's a fact that any empire fall sooner or later , but don't believe it will happen to USA soon.

[President_Elect_Shang]

CNC. I think what Imperator Fyron meant was that 20th and 21st century communication allows for more control. I am not sure about the bigger government comment but I did not read that in his statement, other than him saying it was part of the downfall. As far as disasters go you are right, but once again other than instant disasters (if you will allow me) such as tornados etc most problems are limited to loss of property not life thanks to better communication.

The House and Senate? Sure you have a point but to some degree, sometimes lesser others more so, both houses are limited by the threat of not getting reelected. On the other hand most incumbents are reelected. I think this point can go both ways.

Feed them to the lions, we don’t have that, but I would watch them on the sports channel. Especially when it involves leaders that did not get the popular vote.
Did I say that.