Are Niefel Jarls too strong?

[Nerfix]

Curse, Horror Mark, Blindness, Paralysis, Spider Webs and huge masses of troops. There are many ways to kill or screw up a Niefel Jarl.

[Pocus]

are you sure the innate chill effect cumulate with the breath of winter?

[Shael]

well we are kinda missing the point from the topic...
imho they are way too strong unless they can easilly get you very boosted start like 3 provinses at turn 3 (inies) i dont see any other doing this

[Wendigo]

Originally posted by Pocus:
are you sure the innate chill effect cumulate with the breath of winter?

I wondered about this myself in Dom I, after seeing the spell AI cast the spell on its own I decided to follow suit just in case.

[-Storm-]

The Jarls are ridicolously strong, compared that they are natural nation units.

[Sammual]

I love my Jarls and I will cry if you take them away, then again at 500 gold each it's not like I can afford many of them.

Sammual

[Joonie73]

I've done extensive testing of regular units, and it seems that Hydras consistently beat Niefel Jarls. In fact, I haven't seen a unit that beats the Hydra from the regular buildable units.

[Treebeard]

Pretty sure. The chill becomes visibly stronger and ice protection goes from 100 to 250 (I think that's how chill effect is measured).

Originally posted by Pocus:
are you sure the innate chill effect cumulate with the breath of winter?

Maybe I play on a harder difficulty of Computer AI and Indies (Difficult AI standard and 7 on Indies).

The Jotun early advantage is kind of nulled in that aspect. Though that is just my perspective.

[HJ]

Aren't chill effect and Breath of winter two separate things/effects? Chill will cause fatigue and freezing, while BoW will actually cause damage like a cloud spell, if I understand correctly. That would mean that it's worth to cast it with your Jarls to make them even more deadly.