Hall of fame bonuses? - Page 2

Saber Cherry · #11 December 11th, 2003, 06:30 PM

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Originally posted by HJ:
Have you ever had awe on assassin? It's pretty awesome, I would say.

I've had quick assassins. 2 weapons and quickness go quite well together! Especially once they pass 100% and get 6 attacks in the first round. Or, with boots of quickness and 2 swords of quickness, 24 attacks in the first round=)

And then, I've gotten the valor assassins...

[ December 11, 2003, 16:32: Message edited by: Saber Cherry ]

Argitoth · #12 December 11th, 2003, 07:23 PM

I've seen an AI's commander kill my Naga in the arena because it had Quickness as a heroic ability and the "Arena Weapon" which gave it more quickness. Just think what would happen if it casted Quickness the spell and wore quickness boots!

Quadruple Quickness. (It really does stack) I don't think it doubles an already doubled action. I think it just adds 1 action. (Instead of 2 actions becomming 4 actions, it becomes 3 actions)

[ December 11, 2003, 17:26: Message edited by: Argitoth ]

Taqwus · #13 December 11th, 2003, 07:31 PM

I once had a Jotun Herse with heroic Strength. *WHAM*
Possible bonuses include...
Valor (+MRL, Standard ability), Quickness (+AP), Heroic Battle Prowess (+ATT), bp's mirror image (+DEF), Toughness (+HP), Tough Skin (+PROT), Iron Will (+MR), Heroic Precision (+PREC), Heroic Endurance (+reinvig), Undead Leadership (+undead LDR), Heroic Strength (+STR), Awe (+awe), Battle Bellow (+(lesser?) fear).

Argitoth · #14 December 11th, 2003, 07:32 PM

Teleolurian · #15 December 11th, 2003, 07:36 PM

In the fantasy novel 'The Misenchanted Sword', a mage named Darrend got a military recognition for defending his circle with his ceremonial athame, once there was no other recourse. To wit: it's not 'useful', but it happens. (The book never mentions Darrend going into battle or anything like that after that point).

Taqwus · #16 December 11th, 2003, 07:50 PM

A mage with heroic strength or battle prowess might be helpful if he can cast the "remote fist" spells -- there's at least one fairly low-level punching-at-a-distance spell which does rely on STR for damage. Can't say I've used it much 'tho.

Saber Cherry · #17 December 11th, 2003, 07:53 PM

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Originally posted by Argitoth:
I've seen an AI's commander kill my Naga in the arena because it had Quickness as a heroic ability and the "Arena Weapon" which gave it more quickness. Just think what would happen if it casted Quickness the spell and wore quickness boots!

Quadruple Quickness. (It really does stack) I don't think it doubles an already doubled action. I think it just adds 1 action. (Instead of 2 actions becomming 4 actions, it becomes 3 actions)

FYI - quickness does not stack, as far as I can tell. There are only 2 quicknesses: Heroic and magic. Boots of quickness, the spell quickness, and the Champion's Trident all grant magic quickness and are not cumulative with each other. They are cumulative with heroic quickness, though... and heroic quickness is open-ended, so in a long game, I suppose it could get over 200%...

I'm not sure what kind of quickness you get from water-9 blessing. That may be cumulative too.

Teraswaerto · #18 December 11th, 2003, 07:55 PM

Niefel Jarls with toughness are nice, the hp increase is proportional I think.

Teleolurian · #19 December 11th, 2003, 07:57 PM

I shudder to imagine an Arch-Theurg with an incredibly high Heroic Quickness.

Teraswaerto · #20 December 11th, 2003, 07:57 PM

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Originally posted by Saber Cherry:
FYI - quickness does not stack, as far as I can tell. There are only 2 quicknesses: Heroic and magic. Boots of quickness, the spell quickness, and the Champion's Trident all grant magic quickness and are not cumulative with each other.

Doesn't the Trident just have more than one attack, or does it grant quickness too?